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#1 Posted : 24 September 2008 19:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Malcolm Broomfield
can anyone give me a link to where I can get health and safety information for offices etc in France. Although we have European Normality I have been told that the space requirements for persons working in an office in France are 9 cubic metres per person rather than 11 as here in the UK.
I am looking for something with sufficient information to be able to make informed decisions over the workers in Paris.

Many Thanks

Malcolm
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#2 Posted : 25 September 2008 11:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman
Malcolm,

oddly enough, I can't help. I've just been through my copy of the code du travail and cant find anything at all about working space or volume per person. I can do you noise, lux or air changes per hour but not space per person.

I'll try a google on the code de construction and come back if I find anything usefull.

Merv
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#3 Posted : 25 September 2008 11:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC
Given all the 'official' paperwork that goes on in France - I'm sure they must need more space than the UK. They also stack it for longer before getting back to you - so more space needed.
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#4 Posted : 25 September 2008 11:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman
Got something,

Article R111-2

(Décret n° 84-68 du 25 janvier 1984 art. 1 Journal Officiel du 31 janvier 1984)


(Décret n° 97-532 du 23 mai 1997 art. 2 Journal Officiel du 29 mai 1997)


La surface et le volume habitables d'un logement doivent être de 14 mètres carrés et de 33 mètres cubes au moins par habitant prévu lors de l'établissement du programme de construction pour les quatre premiers habitants et de 10 mètres carrés et 23 mètres cubes au moins par habitant supplémentaire au-delà du quatrième.
La surface habitable d'un logement est la surface de plancher construite, après déduction des surfaces occupées par les murs, cloisons, marches et cages d'escaliers, gaines, embrasures de portes et de fenêtres ; le volume habitable correspond au total des surfaces habitables ainsi définies multipliées par les hauteurs sous plafond.
Il n'est pas tenu compte de la superficie des combles non aménagés, caves, sous-sols, remises, garages, terrasses, loggias, balcons, séchoirs extérieurs au logement, vérandas, volumes vitrés prévus à l'article R. 111-10, locaux communs et autres dépendances des logements, ni des parties de locaux d'une hauteur inférieure à 1,80 mètre.

OK ?

This is for living space, house or appartment, not specific for offices etc.

14 m2 and 33m3 for each of the first four inhabitants then an additional 10m2 and 23m3 for each additional person.

I'll keep looking

Merv
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#5 Posted : 25 September 2008 14:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Malcolm Broomfield
Many thanks for your hard work and responses, I have just got hold of the office manager in Paris who speaks English, I will try to get a response and where it comes from and post it here for you all to see.

In the meantime if anyone comes across a definitive answer then that would be fantastic.
Again many many thanks

Malcolm

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#6 Posted : 30 September 2008 19:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Malcolm Broomfield
I thought this might help someone else as well as me.

Selon la norme AFNOR NF X35-102 : l'encombrement d'un poste de travail, y compris 2 m2 de mobilier, doit être de :
- 9 m² pour 1 personne ;
- 12 m² pour 2 p.
- 21m² pour 3 p.
- 32 m² pour 4 p.
- 45 m² pour 5 p.


According to standard AFNOR NF X35-102: l' obstruction d' a work station, including 2 m2 of furniture, must be of: - 9 m ² for 1 person; - 12 m ² for 2 p. - 21m ² for 3 p. - 32 m ² for 4 p.


Article R.235-3-16 code du travail : - Les dimensions des locaux de travail, notamment leur hauteur et leur surface, doivent permettre aux travailleurs d'exécuter leur tâche sans risque pour leur sécurité, leur santé ou leur bien-être.
L'espace libre au poste de travail, compte tenu du mobilier, doit être prévu pour que le personnel dispose d'une liberté de mouvement suffisante.
Lorsque, pour des raisons propres au poste de travail, ceci ne peut être respecté, il doit être prévu un espace libre suffisant à proximité de ce poste.

Trouble is I still have 32 people in an office and I still can't tell them if the space requirements are being adhered to. I have asked for a response from the french legislation team but am sill waiting..........

Malcolm

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