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#1 Posted : 30 September 2008 16:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dennis101 Hi all, I am shortly about to be involved in the demolition/dis-assembly of a stainless steel tower structure in Telford. It will be cut up into sections with suitable bracing and disassembled, loaded on to flat bed lorries and transported to another site for reassembly. Method used will be use of Plasma cutters, scaffolding and/or cherry picker/sky lift equipment. Tower is estimated to be 35/40 metres tall with a walkways at 0, 10 and 30 metres. Wall thickness is 50 mm and 22 foot diameter. Apart from the hazards associated with the equipment above can anybody assist me with other hazards/risks. Thanks, Dennis
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#2 Posted : 30 September 2008 17:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter MacDonald Hi Dennis All demolition work subject to CDM 2007. Should be a Pre-tender health and safety plan available. A demolition phase Health and Safety Plan should be in place. A risk assessment and method statement should be produced with ref to and satisfying the requirements for BS 6187 code of practice for demolition. Any lifting studies should be carried out by an appointed person for lifting and a lifting supervisor and slinger/banksman must be on site during the lifts. Contractor appointed should be competent.Trained competent men with a supervisor on site. CDM Coordinator should ensure this. Too many risk and hazards to mention here and I've no real info on the job but obviously working at height, trained competent people for the plasarc, scaffolding, MEWP or any equipment really, Segregation of public,creating a safe, controlled working space, safe access, debris spread from plas arc, flammable material in the vicinity, simultaneous operations, layered working, banksman for transport, access for slinging the load, what was in the vessel, is it still there, venting to atmosphere, handling cut sections (50mm s/s is very thick by the way, are you sure it's not mild steel). Will piecemealing it cause it to become unstable. I could go on but for fear of boring you to death, if you want I can e-mail you some risk assessments for similar work. Peter
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#3 Posted : 01 October 2008 14:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dennis101 Peter thanks for the infomation, seems I'm on the right track and am able to cover most of what you posted. Yes it is 50 mm stainless steel as it handles food. Your offer of emails regarding risk assessments would be most welcome. Thanks for the assistance, Dennis P.S. do I have to post me email addres here?
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#4 Posted : 01 October 2008 14:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter No, Dennis As long as your login name is in red under your messages, others can contact you by just clicking on it; this will open a blank message in their e-mail programme. Paul
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#5 Posted : 02 October 2008 08:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch Dennis, I would not class this as demolition. Mitch
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#6 Posted : 02 October 2008 08:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dennis101 Agreed there Mitch, but the stack is clad in a thin layer of aluminium and a demolition squad is being engaged to remove it.
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#7 Posted : 02 October 2008 08:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter MacDonald OK Mitch. What is it then? Dismantling? De-construction? Still comes under BS6187
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#8 Posted : 02 October 2008 09:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch Peter. It is a component (from the description given, a silo) which is being dismantled and re-assembled, not demolished. Mitch
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#9 Posted : 02 October 2008 09:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dennis101 Peter, not a silo as such it seems to have the function of cooling and stirring or aerating the product as it slowly cascades to the bottom of the stack.
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#10 Posted : 02 October 2008 09:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter MacDonald Mitch In my opinion, If it's being scaffolded, cut up into peices with plasarc, lifted down in sections by crane by a demolition contractor then it would come under demolition BS6187. Therefore, although it is being dismantled, or de-constructed, re-engineered, de-commissioned etc it comes under the scope of "demolition" and therefore the CDM regs and all of what I said above. I've been involved in removing silos, tanks, reactor loops, gas holders, agitaion tanks, underground storage tanks and plenty others and in my experience unless it's being craned or skidded out whole, it has all been in accordance with BS6187 and therefore demolition. If it isn't what would you say the goverening legislation/regulations that are applicable? I'm not having a go by the way. It's difficult to question someone on a forum without sounding like you're shouting or being difficult! Regards Pete
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#11 Posted : 02 October 2008 10:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch Peter, Inflections!! I don't disagree with the advice you have given, coming from a mechanical engineering background and not a civil I have always tried, or had to! draw a line between civil and mechanical perhaps too pedantically sometimes, this does does not suggest detracting from the application of good safety and project management. Mitch
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#12 Posted : 08 October 2008 10:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel If the job value is >£300K you will also need SWMP
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#13 Posted : 08 October 2008 11:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hossam Dennis.. you may take into account the transportation of the 22feet diameter tube (i.e. 22feet height )..what trailer? ..what restraints to be used?.. Good luck Hossam
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