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#1 Posted : 06 November 2008 13:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tony Black Can anybody out there enlighten me as to whether any claims have been lodged by employees regarding deterioration of vision due to the compulsory wearing of eye protection on construction sites.
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#2 Posted : 06 November 2008 13:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By A Campbell Tony, Not that I am aware off... but it is PPE and requires training, correct fitting, maintenance and cleaning. I was on sites that the PC made mandatory... but had a hard task of asking them to supply adequate cleaning stations!
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#3 Posted : 06 November 2008 13:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By MickN A few things to consider. I've haad nine years of trying to keep safety glasses on the heads (and in front of the eyes) of construction workers. 1. They don't like nor want to wear them. 2. I asked my optician the same question and the reply I was given is that they are probably just noticing their natural prescription. When you think about it people who don't wear glasses don't all have the exact same vision. 3.I've heard the same excuse more than once and not one has arrived in with anything to back up the arguement. 4. I know of no scientific studies to back it up. 5. As humans, we become progressively more farsighted (naturally) over time. In conclusion, wear the glasses.
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#4 Posted : 06 November 2008 13:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By stephen b jones Hi, I did hear that one of the major construction companies reversed the decision to make eye protection "mandatory" due to a claim made by an operative who's vision was impaired by misted goggles.
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#5 Posted : 06 November 2008 16:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By graeme12345 I once worked for an American company who were the PC they ensured, by constant safety on site, eye / hi viz vest / hard hat / boots and hand protection (but could take off for fiddly tasks. When some of the contractors left to work on other sites they used to come back to carry out more work they would say, this site is really good,all the other sites we have worked did not care to much about the wearing of ppe and they felt really vulnerable But it was constant super"vision" and the PPE was not the cheapo stuff, so it was comfortable and after a while funnily enough they only noticed it when they were not wearing it, which made them put it on.(hope that sounds right)
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#6 Posted : 07 November 2008 12:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter Tony, Is this claimant serious? A permanent loss of visual acuity allegedly caused by wearing safety specs? Sorry, but I'm LOL on that one!
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#7 Posted : 07 November 2008 12:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Arran Linton - Smith When undertaking PPE/DDA assessments for those workers who have presbyopia, if you have a compulsory Safety Glasses Policy, how do you deal with those workers who have to frequently use reading glasses and then look over the top of these?
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#8 Posted : 07 November 2008 13:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By murray-t I work on a construction site in Wales with around 2000 contractors; all have to wear safety specs. I don’t have much trouble enforcing this policy; I find it harder to ensure that they wear their gloves. The biggest moan about wearing them is that they steam up in the rain and this presents its own H&S problems especially as you can’t see were your going, which is not good on a building site Murray
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#9 Posted : 07 November 2008 13:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Simon Priest Arran, Sorry to show naivety but isn't presbyopia a natural process related to aging? If so, would this fall within the definition of disability within the DDA? Simon
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#10 Posted : 07 November 2008 14:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By D Mitchell All safety glasses should be manufactured to BS EN 166. If they are grade 1, then this means that the manufacturer has certified that they are suitable for "continuous use". They will also have been checked to ensure that they are "optically correct". I have recently implemented a 100% eye protection policy in my company, and prior to implementation I requested and received this information from both our PPE supplier and also the manufacturer. I also ensured that the glasses are anti-mist therby negating any issues with RPE. Hope this helps.
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#11 Posted : 07 November 2008 15:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Arran Linton - Smith Simon, I was simply referring to the spirit of DDA rather than the detail of the legislation, however I am yet to see this issue assessed as part of a PPE assessment for compulsory use of safety glasses. Surely safety glasses are not going to provide the same level of protection if they are perched on the end of an operatives nose!
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#12 Posted : 07 November 2008 16:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By david sheehan In my work as a sub-contractor I wear safety glasses all the time.I notice immediately when I haven't got them on.As far as I'm concerned a little inconvenience weighed against the possible loss or serious damage to the eyes is a small price to pay.Time and again the little voice in the back of my mind says "Good job you had your glasses on this time". Eyes:protect them or lose them! David
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#13 Posted : 10 November 2008 09:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By John J I asked our optician whther safety glasses could cause deteriation in eyesight and he reported he was not aware of any and in the last 18 years since its been policy he would have noticed. He did, however, say he was acutely aware of the consequences of failure to wear eye protection having dealt with many people suffering as a result of an injury. John
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#14 Posted : 10 November 2008 10:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By John J Having now looked up presbyopia! You can get Light Eye Protection with 1.5, 2.0 and 2.5 corrections. I introduced them and they've gone down well with our older workforce. We do advise they see an optician before use and, no, its not an indicater of deteriating eyesight other than would be expected through old age.
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