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#1 Posted : 19 November 2008 13:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Exdeeps
Now then,
Having just followed a link on a RoSPA e mail I found myself at the No. 10 Petition site looking at a petition to alter summer/winter times to provide longer daylight in the evenings (at the expense of day light in the morning)The theory runs that RTA's and CO2 emmisions would be reduced and we would all have more day light liesure time.
Now, I go to work really early in the morning so although it might mean I get to travel home in day light more I will have to drive to work in the dark more aswell.....
I know the opposition to this increases the further north you go due to the diminishing return on day light in the winter.
What do you think?
Jim

As an aside, my favourite No 10 petition called on the Prime Minister to stand on his head and juggle ice cream!
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#2 Posted : 19 November 2008 13:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By SteveS
Why change the clocks?
It does nothing to change the number of daylight hours. I vote for working less hours in the winter and longer in the summer well may be not that long in the summer ;-)

Steve
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#3 Posted : 19 November 2008 13:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Renown II
Exdeeps

This seems to always come up at this time of year and still nothing is ever done. However, I would prefer to drive home in daylight!

Will have a look at the petition though...

Exbomberdeeps

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#4 Posted : 19 November 2008 14:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Hardy
A topic that comes up every year. I would like to see it changed to provide better light in the evenings.
The argument that those in Scotland will be in the dark longer does not hold water - they will always have short days in winter and long days in the summer.
If we are going to stay in the EU we may as well work their hours and save all the aggro every time the clocks change.

Chris
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#5 Posted : 19 November 2008 15:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Shillabeer
Leave it alone I say, it's always dark when I go to work and when I come home. My father worked in the pits so it was always dark for him. Anyway when you travel as far as I do you don't notice anyway as I'm usually asleep most of the way (on a train not a car).
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#6 Posted : 19 November 2008 15:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Barrie (Badger) Etter
The day light saving was only introduced to help the farmers, why on earth they couldn't set their alarm clocks for an hour earlier and leave threst of us in ignorance I'll never know. It'll also free up the roads a bit.

That said, as most of my furry namesakes are killed in the early hours why not totally re-arrange the clocks such that drivers can see the badgers crossing the roads in so called daylight. More bonkers conkers.

Badger
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#7 Posted : 19 November 2008 15:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sen Sar
Most of europe and other counties do observe some DST, but they also observe CET (Central European Time.CET=GMT+1hr, Summer time CET+GMT+ 1hr.

I think we should at least fall in line with the majority of Europe.

Egypt change there clocks 1st May & 30th Sept.(useless info I know).



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#8 Posted : 19 November 2008 16:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sen Sar


If I remember correctly (Its not that I'm that old) wasn't the first time we had UK wide time, for Train Timetabling?
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#9 Posted : 19 November 2008 16:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Barrie (Badger) Etter
Train time was the forerunner of GMT.
Through the 1840s and '50s the railways gradually introduced "London" time (taken from the Greenwich Royal Observatory) as a standard across the country which eventually became GMT.

Badger

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#10 Posted : 19 November 2008 16:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete48
And then there is all that research that suggests that our circadian rhythms are seriously affected by this annual social adjustment. Apparently it takes longer to adjust to the spring changes than the Autumn change.
The easy answer would be to just leave it at GMT (+/-local time) all year round. The world today is a different place from that into which this piece of social engineering was originally forced. We operate globally, travel extensively, live 24/7 in better lit offices and homes etc etc.
When you consider that it first was suggested by an upper class gentleman who was too upset at the waste of sunshine. He rose early in the summer to ride his horse through he woods and was appalled that others were still asleep during all this wasted daylight. It was eventually introduced at the height of the first world war in 1916 as part of the war effort, interestingly not long after Germany had adopted it as an efficiency measure. One can only marvel at its survival for so long. Anyone else remember the British Standard Time fiasco of the late sixties?
However, it is now, of course, the subject of various EU Directives and more likely to be with us for many years to come as a result.

Aah, I am tired out now, is it time for bed yet?
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#11 Posted : 19 November 2008 16:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Cartwright
Have they not done this before. I remember we had to wear high viz arm bands when we walked to school.
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#12 Posted : 20 November 2008 14:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Colin Reeves
What is all the fuss about?

1. Harold Wilson (I recall?) introduced an experiment of keeping BST throughout. It failed.

2. Why keep to CET - this is designed for Central Europe (hence the name!!) and not for the western fringes.

3. Other countries have several times within one country (e.g. Canada, USA, Russia) so getting into line with the EU is not a reasonable argument.

My concern is why change the clocks 7 weeks before the shortest day, but wait for 14 weeks after the shortest day to change back to summer time?
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#13 Posted : 20 November 2008 14:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sen Sar
Oh Steve, you are showing your age!

Between 1968-1971 UK remained on GMT+1 all year. It was voted out by a large majority.

There has been research done by RoSPA and other safety gropus regarding the number of accidents during light/dark hours.

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#14 Posted : 20 November 2008 16:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bryan Goldsmith 16052
I am afraid I can only remember Zulu and Alpha time - Not to mention the hours in black lighting!. All those black lamps I had to change.
GMT is now refered to as UTC because our French colleagues don't recognise Greenwich as being the centre of the world.

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