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#1 Posted : 24 November 2008 21:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By tom johns
Can anyone advise on the requirements to remove a whole artex ceiling containing asbestos. I have read the task sheets from the HSE but not much help for an whole ceiling.

If there is a method could anyone help and let me have a copy

Thanks
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#2 Posted : 24 November 2008 23:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter
You could put a skim coat over it?
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#3 Posted : 27 November 2008 17:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Josh Scogin
Hi there Tom, First of all may i ask why do you need to remove it? My first recommendation would be to skim over it, a lot less hassle. Although textured coatings have now been removed from the licensing laws, meaning a "competent contractor" can be used there are still a number of strict control measures to adhere to, including an adequate risk assessment. Hence why a lot of my 4 stage clearance work still involves licensed asbestos removal contractors (the control measures needed have kept them happy, as many duty holders are put off by them and still seek professional advice regardless of wether the material is now un-licensed)

H type Vac, sheeting, PPE, RPE, disposal are all controls that need to be in place.

The asbestos essentials section of the HSE site has a task sheet for textured coatings, although it stresses its only for a small area, the same technique applies.

hope that helps

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#4 Posted : 27 November 2008 23:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter
And also be sure that the substrate ceiling material isn't also an ACM!
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#5 Posted : 28 November 2008 08:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel
Think about what you need to do after removal as 'don't remove it unless you have to' advice has already been posted

You also need to confirm the % and type of asbestos therein + the volume and weight of the materials being disposed of to comply with environmental and transportation laws

Usually this type of material can easily be counted into your normal construction waste stream but confirm some facts first
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#6 Posted : 28 November 2008 09:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson
If you look at page 44 in the ACoP (Li43) Work with asbestos it details in this section how what when to do this
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#7 Posted : 28 November 2008 10:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rodger Alan Ker
All of the above points are correct, but the main point that a lot of people are now overlooking is the following.

While the removal of Textured Decorative Coatings (TDC'), "ARTEX" to most people, does not require to be carried out by a "licensed" contractor, it does need to be removed in a manner that meets the requirements of CAR 2006.

Requires, trained workers, type "H" vacuum cleaners, provision of PPE and suitable RPE, adequate procedures to ensure visual cleanliness upon completion and provision of waste carriage and disposal.

ARTEX REMOVAL HAS BEEN DE-LICENSED, IT HAS NOT BEEN DE-REGULATED.

The average builder is not going to be able to operate to the required standard.

Get a professional.
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#8 Posted : 28 November 2008 10:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Renny Thomson
Ask; Do you need to remove it?

If not, you avoid a lot of the problems with disposal etc as detailed above. Either skim coat it, or fix plasterboard to the underside (using safe methods of work).
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