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Posted By Kirsty Davies2
Before you start, please take it serious;
Is there any approved guide available which recommends ideal daily sleeping times for people of different ages?
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Posted By SteveD-M
Kirsty
Haven't come across any. You may want to contact the Sleep research facility at Loughborough.
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Posted By Descarte
The National Sleep Foundation in the United States maintains that seven to nine hours of sleep for adult humans is optimal and that sufficient sleep benefits alertness, memory and problem solving, and overall health, as well as reducing the risk of accidents.
The table your requesting can be found here:
http://www.sleepfoundati...t_Sleep_Work_for_You.htm
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Posted By stephen d clarke
Hi,
Sounds a bit like the recommended number fruit/veg to eat daily and litres of water to drink daily IMHO largely rubbish - every one is so different, one mans meat etc, also the quality of that sleep for an individual at any one time and what they are used to are other factors
Steve
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Posted By Dave Merchant
It also varies a lot with age. AFAIK there's nothing in law about sleep per se, only the idea of "rest" within the WTD (nobody says you have to be asleep during your rest period).
The 9-hr thing may be optimal, but as to the question of "minimum" that's a lot harder to answer. Are we talking every night? One or two? What tasks are they doing afterwards?
You could pull an all-nighter and still cope at a quiet reception desk, but I wouldn't want to be flying a plane.
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Posted By Kirsty Davies2
I fully understand that there isn’t any law (there shouldn’t be any way, lol), however, I was after some sort of guidance from some health researchers, in order to educate workers regarding the importance of proper rest.
Descrate – thanks for the useful article.
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Posted By JimE
Kirsty,
I believe it's just one hour more please lol
JimE
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Posted By Kirsty Davies2
LOL
JimE – This is what, I’ve been trying to do since childhood but don’t seem to get over it. (still after that one hour)
Well said anyway.
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan
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You've raised a more complex issue than meets the eye.
Factors include:
1. Quality of sleep influences its effect rather tnan quantity alone
2. Circadian rhythms are roughtly in 25-hour cycles and are affected both by changes in patterns of shift work and travel; some people simply can't biologically adjust to disruptions arising from changes in patterns of shift work.
3. Interpersonal differences in circadian rhythms affect the best possible length of sleep for any individual.
4. General medical prac;titioners vary greatly in their undrestanding of sleep deprivation: I know someone who suffered enormously for 41 years from the age of 19, and after treatment at the age of 61 now feels as energetic as he was when he was 16.
Monks and Folkard wrote a good, research-based guide to sleep and managing circadian rhythms from an occupational health standpoint; it was published by Taylor and Francis.
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Posted By Colin Reeves
Kirsty
Whilst unlikely to be of direct relevance to your operation (if it was you would know about it!!) there is shipping legislation relating to "rest periods".
SI 1997 No 1320 regs 7 to 10 apply - Reg 9(5)(c) states "it provides a minimum of ten hours of rest in any 24-hour period, which may be divided into no more than two periods, one of which shall be at least six hours in length: Provided that the minimum period of ten hours may be reduced to not less than six consecutive hours on condition that any such reduction shall not extend beyond two days and not less than seventy hours of rest are provided in each seven day period."
Rest is not specifically defined, but Reg 8 shows that rest is effectively synonymous with sleep.
Colin
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Posted By Andy Brazier
There is a very interesting book by Sara Mednick called "Take a Nap! Change your life." It talks about how napping during the day to supplement night-time sleep is part of human nature. It makes specific reference to health and safety, including the role of fatigue in the Exxon Valdez accident.
A few snippets.
In 1950's studies were done where subjects were kept in small flats without windows or clocks. After a short transitional phase people would sleep six to seven hours at a time that would represent night and roughly 12 hours later would return to bed for a shorter time. It is suggested that this is a natural sleep pattern.
Before the light bulb was invented adults would typically get as much as 10 hours rest during the average weeknight. Today the average (in USA I presume) is 6.7 hours.
I know this does not answer the question, but the suggestion is that taking naps is a good way of making up for the sleep deficit created by modern living.
You can get the book from Amazon at
http://www.amazon.co.uk/...&creativeASIN=0761142908
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Posted By Colin Reeves
I can support Andy with this from personal experience.
Normal sea-going watches (for example the Mates 4-8 watch) allow for a 6-7 hour sleep (in this case from 2030ish to 0330ish) and the norm is then to get a zizz for 1-2 hours after lunch. System has been proved over many years.
Colin
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Posted By GregW
Agree this is a very complex and potentially NASTY area to get into.
One point to add, the time take to get to and from work. As we are all aware employers are liable for journey claims and if it can be proven that the accident was due to work related fatigue then your liable (this is a clearly established legal precedent in Aus and can but presume likewise in the UK).
It is also advisable to ensure that there are questions asked regrading ability to perform shift work, including factors such as; is it a rotating shift pastern or permanent night shift. At pre-employment/routine medicals, following work injury and/or extended absence from work for any reason. This information should then be considered during shift planning, and of course documented.
The above was provided by company legal council to my firm in Aus at a presentation on the aging workforce and as previously indicated this greatly increases risk and the inclusion of this info as part of shift planning is a good method of risk treatment.
Hope this helps and if you have any other q's feel free to ask.
Greg
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Posted By Phil Rose
Kirsty
On a slightly lighter note, we used to have a formula when I was in the RAF - 1 shower = 2 hours sleep! Always helpful after a heavy night!
Phil
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Posted By Kirsty Davies2
Thankyou everyone. There were some very useful information.
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