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#1 Posted : 22 January 2009 10:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul
Currently there is within this company weekly toolbox talks for all site personnel. On a number of occasions, we have mini tool box talks, with different operating personnel, i.e. machine operators/slingers.

The talks consist of personnel been instructed on safe work practices/operations while carrying out specific tasks. The safety advisor gathers the workforce and reads out to them, the need for example 100% tie off, at all times, when working at heights, demarcation of works area. When tool box is complete, personnel sign off as to being present and having understood toolox talk safet subject matter.

I am enquiring as to persons on this forum, having a tool box talk template, that they at present use, that I may be able to check against the tool box talks we undertake. My reason being is Can we do it better/is there a better system for tool box talks that we can incorporate into the ones we participate in.

I would be grateful if anyone could provide us with info on this matter as I believe we can improve the way in which we carry out tool box talks.

Kind regards

Paul

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#2 Posted : 22 January 2009 11:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Merchant
The "reads out" thing bothers me straight away - people react better when they're talked with, rather than at. You may have some essential points to get across, but engaging the group in conversations is more effective than following an obviously-formulaic program.

You wouldn't believe your GP if she was diagnosing you by reading out a checklist, even though that's what she's doing in her head. Time may be limited in a mini-talk but you run them regularly, so can vary the content to cover more of the issues (suggestions for improvements, insights into skills slightly beyond their current training, things from the news, etc.)
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#3 Posted : 22 January 2009 11:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Futcher
Paul

Despite it being better to chat to people rather than reading out items, I'd like to congratulate you/your company on doing these talks regularly.

I'm sorry not to be able to help you with a "template" as I don't have such a thing - I issue notes to supervisors and the notes can be totally different formats for different topics, and therefore you won't see from me the consistency you seem to be benchmarking against.

I also commend you on your foresight to "benchmark" to see if you are doing the right thing.

As often quoted: Crack on!

Ian
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#4 Posted : 22 January 2009 12:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Packham
On the basis that pictures combined with words result in better comprehension have you considered using a flip chart approach?

You can get what looks like a simple conference folder that can open up to provide a form of desk top stand. This is then filled with A4 sheets each with a diagramme or picture.

In practice you can then put a reminder text on the back of one sheet relating to the next. As you flip the sheets over your audience can see the sheet you are speaking about whereas you can see the reminder!

I have found this works well. It is easy to produce the A4 sheets and they can be kept for future repeat use.

If you e-mail me I can send you a picture of the system we use.

Chris
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#5 Posted : 22 January 2009 12:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Skinner
Hi Paul,

You have mail.

Steve
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#6 Posted : 22 January 2009 12:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel
I advise that scripts are used and that frontline supervisers undertake theses talks backed up by more senior people - the H&S person on an official & planned basis

Ownership will only be had if management take part in the process
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#7 Posted : 22 January 2009 12:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By SteveD-M
http://www.healthandsafe....co.uk/Toolbox_Talks.htm

Have you tried this Paul?
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#8 Posted : 22 January 2009 16:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul
Thank you one and all for your comments in relation to toolbox talks.

In my post I have said talked to the personnel as literally speaking it is a tool box talk but we don't stand on a pulpit? (toolbox) and dictate to the personnel that this is the way. We do try to ask questions of the men and more often than not with the characters we have here they will tell you the options they consider worth adopting.

We have upwards of 60-70 personnel on site and to sit down with flip charts and possibly a powerpoint presentation will not work as we do not have the time or space.

As to tomorrows toolbox talk it will be on exclusion zones with demarcation of work area signage fencing hazards etc.

We include the supervisors and foreman as they are on occasion the personnel involved in the mini-tool box talks as we try to get feed back from them and they in turn we hope transfer it back to the men have in their work locations

I have found safety tips a site worth a visit as do I find www.safety topics.com for those of you that may be
interested.

To Steve I did not receive any email.

We are going to try and better our tool box my posting of thread was for this purpose.

I will finish here and again thank you for your comments.

Kind regards

Paul

p.s excuse my lack of comma's
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#9 Posted : 22 January 2009 16:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Suffolkman
I support a previous comments

1. Its great to hear of someone doing it regularly but i really believe its should be the supervisors delivering the talks,not the H&S man

2. I also agree that while flip charts and PPTs are nice they are not practical on site . I have previously created talks on A4 with bullet points only and a relevant picture and then posted them on to a notice board after the supervisor has delivered.

3. We also used TBT's as a means of consultation/ communication e.g " any other safety issues anyone would like to mention" and some talks would end with " OK we talked about ladder inspections now lets go and inspect some"

Hope that helps

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#10 Posted : 22 January 2009 17:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Packham
Perhaps I was misunderstood. The flip chart I mentione in my posting is not the large stand with A1 sized pad. It is a small folder the size of an underarm folder of the type often used at conferences. It folds out to form a simply triangular stand or can be hand held. The artwork for this I produce on a computer in A4 (Powerpoint or CorelDraw or similar is ideal).

I have used this system in site locations where other forms of visual aid would be totally impractical. If you laminate the artwork you can even use it outdoors in the rain!

I find it quick to use, effective and helpful in getting points across.

If anyone wants an illustration just let me know.

Chris
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#11 Posted : 22 January 2009 17:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Suffolkman
Paul

I've done the same but i still think a toolbox talk is just that a talk delivered by the supervisor (hopefuly a two way coversation actually), and its not relly practical to issue flipchart to every one of them.

Perhaps the US term tailgate meeting would be more appropriate

Gus
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