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#1 Posted : 03 February 2009 10:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Crim
This is true.

A recently appointed employee at a call centre is experiencing problems when using the IT equipment provided by the employer. The employee has been at work on training with a number of others for a month without a DSE assessment carried out on any of the new recruits.

The employee asks for a DSE assessment as special equipment will be required due to the employee having RSI from a previous employment, it is known that equipment can be made available to ease/prevent discomfort but not provided yet.

The employer instructs the employee to carry out a self assessment - wait for it - on her PC. The very equipment that is causing the problem.

The employee follows instruction and completes the DSE assessment and sends the assessment online to her manager, receiving confirmation that it has been sent.

The Manager does not receive the assessment so asks the employee to "do it again".

The employee is suffering pain by using the equipment and is now getting stressed as well. She is in fear of being sacked because of her problem.







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#2 Posted : 03 February 2009 10:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Neil R
Thats the idea of a DSE assessment isn't it?

You go through the assessment, answering questions about posture, eye/ screen position. Pain and discomfort etc whilst using YOUR equipment. What would be the point of doing it on a different machine?

The answers to the questions flag up the issues, for example feet don't touch the floor etc and then the employer assesses the workstation and provides the equipment to solve the issue.

Don't see what the problem is?
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#3 Posted : 03 February 2009 11:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By graeme12345
Did the employee make known to the employer about their RSI, before they commenced work with them?

Did the employee know what the job entailed?

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#4 Posted : 03 February 2009 11:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan
Crim

Regrettably, this is really not so unusual - such cases are commonly resolved out-of-court through para. 36 of the Civil Procedure Rules, if the employee makes a claim under health/safety law.

By contrast, a claim under 'disability discrimination' is commonly perceived as in the 'heavy lifting' category and given more attention.

One available lesson is that safety practitioners can choose to develop expertise in applying 'disability ergonomics' as part of their normal practice.
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#5 Posted : 03 February 2009 11:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Crim
Thanks so far.

The employee declared her disability to the employer during her interview. This is a re-employment with the same company that provided the equipment in the first place, so she knows what the job entails.

The employee is not looking for a claim - just to keep her job.

I understand about using the equipment for the assessment - but a second time?

Just a thought - this employee was DSE assessed some years ago, how long should such an assessment be kept?



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#6 Posted : 03 February 2009 11:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte
Some DSE self assessments also include basic training for the correct use of DSE equipment, also a good idea that the person conducting it is at their own work station.

Apart from taking breaks in between conducting the assessment and the employee making obvious alterations to their own work station as they go I also cannot see a major issue, surely the assessment does not take several hours to complete? Though it is unfortunate that they have to repeat this twice.

Des

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#7 Posted : 03 February 2009 11:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte
Sorry aditional -

The assessment should be reviewed when the person, task, location or equipment changes
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#8 Posted : 03 February 2009 12:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan
Crim

Regarding length of validity of a risk assessment, as you know, the principle of risk assessment is that 'until there's a significant change...'

Re-emergence of painful musculo-skeletal problems is 'significant' enough for you to spend your time on the matter!

Regarding a claim or otherwise...The ultimate negotiation may be between persistent exposure to uncontrollable (not simply uncontrolled) likelihood of injury leading to irreversible damage (such cases occur - I've come across more than one).

In the event that AFTER AND ONLY AFTER the employer has exhaustively explored every avenue to control the risk, they may legitimately declare 'frustration of contract', ie. the employee is literally not fit to work.

Meanwhile, the employEE can simply phone 'Access to Work' and arrange for them to send an 'safety ergonomist' (ideally but probably not a qualified one!) to assess her needs and provide appropriate adaptive equipment free of charge.

It's a matter for negotiation - and mediation perhaps with your help? - to figure out to what extent voice-controlled software can be used in the call centre environment. With a good trainer, funded by the Access to Work scheme, this may well deliver the goods; I know one former sufferer who went down that path and relief from daily keyboarding was sufficient - by the time he had learned to use the voice-operated software (along with his steady commitment to swimming a mile five days a week to improve his fitness level), the RSI condition was greatly relieved; it's now also controlled with brief visits to a chiropractor about every 4 to 6 months.
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#9 Posted : 03 February 2009 12:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Crim
Kieran,

Thanks you have probably provided the answer.
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#10 Posted : 03 February 2009 13:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter
On-screen DSE Assessments packages surely have facility to save the assessment. If it doesn't, it's a pretty poor system.
It would also appear to have a few other glitches - like not sending reports to e-mail recipients!
Hitting "resend" shouldn't be an RSI issue!
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#11 Posted : 03 February 2009 13:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan
Crim

If you are assisting the employee to manage her vulnerability to RSI, it's a good idea to help her out with research before an ATW assessment (bearing in mind that the state-funded assessor may actually know less than you do about disability/safety ergonomics)

Specific controls to consider are:

1. The most adjustable chair possible - while the normal market principle of Supply and Demand pricing applies, good manufacturers like Herman Miller, Orangebox and Advanced Design all offer a range of products

2. A quill instead of a 'mouse'

3. A split keyboard, adjustable both vertically and horizonally

4. Desk-ambient lighting

5. Siting of a printer and monitor/screen so that minimal stretch and strain is needed.

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#12 Posted : 03 February 2009 14:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Shillabeer
Had a concern when an employee reported that she had already suffered with RSI prior to becoming an employee of the company I work for. That did not change the position of her employment but put an additional duty upon is tomanage the continuing problem in that we had to provide something extra to reduce the risk of further injury. This was noted in the DSE assesment that was carried out and the workstation modified as appropriate. Problem solved, so why is there such a big issue made of such a simple task??
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#13 Posted : 03 February 2009 17:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan
Bob

Intentionally or otherwise, what you refer to as 'a big issue' is annually reported as one of the two root causes of absence from work in surveys by the CBI, HSE and CIPD. Note - every year this century.

A simple answer to your question is 'the body dimensions of people vary greatly and far, far more than many employers recognise so that the risks of injury are uncontrolled.

In the specific case you refer to, it is possible that the 'recovery' or 'healing' was random. Which is not a legally or economically satisfactory basis for managing people.
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