Posted By Robert K Lewis
I trained somebody last week and he denies being trained at all this last six months!!

Very difficult to accept the word of some people on some occassions.

Bob

Posted By Seamus O Sullivan
Hi Gerry

It is my understanding that they should be used within 3 years of manafacturer, if the manufacturer says it should not be used after a certain date, it is my belief it should not them be used after the date,

Anybody ever check the dates of the ones for sale?


Seamus

Posted By RP
The question here, without diverting the thread, is was the training previously given appropriate. Answer, NO.

PUWER, ACOP Uses Abrasive wheels as an example of the application of the regulations and lists what should be covered in the training, specifically the hazards and risks associated with using abrasive wheels.

One of these risks is from using a wheel (Fibre, resin, reinforced) which has passed its 'shelf life'. This is a basic item on any course. Where these employees have been trained you are justified in investigating this further. You first need to have a copy of the course content, duration, aims and objectives of the training.

If the training given was not appropriate then it should be reported to the HSE without fail to prevent the person delivering it from doing so again. Whoever carried out the training has placed your employees at significant risk.

I had experience of this with a local authority who's employees were told, on a 2 hour course' blue labels are for metal and green for stone'. So I gave them my own abrasive wheels test paper to do as they did not think they needed any other training. All failed miserably. The result was that I went back and did 11 further courses that included managers and supervisors.

People need to confirm the competence of trainers, its not just the cost but the quality of training...

If you find out that the training given was in appropriate, as a safety practitioner you have a moral duty to ensure it cannot hapen again.