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Posted By James P W
All,
This is just a text-based forum at present. Whilst I'm not knocking the existing content and service I do feel there is room to improve the facility and the sharing of information.
Where else do so many H&S folk get together to share knowledge?
Perhaps we could improve the sharing of information, best practices and invite like-minded professionsals to participate in surveys/research.
The latter of these would presumably be a useful CPD tool and enable trend analysis/benchmarking on various safety topics that we could all benefit from.
Even being able to add photos would be progress.
I'm aware there would be additional IT/server costs for IOSH. I don't know what budget IOSH have for maintaining this forum but what are your thoughts on improving the potential of this important communication tool and keeping our profession up to pace with technological capabilities?
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Posted By Kevin D Forbes
James
You raise some very good points. quite frankly I am fed up of the censorship on this site having had several of my postings removed recently. I am setting up a not for profit ( yes moderators not a business venture ) website aimed at transforming HSE recruitment. As part of this website I will be adding a form where people will be free to express themselfs on the forms. have a look at the idea www.hsepeople.com
Kev
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Posted By CW
A few things that this forum would benefit from imo are…
• The ability to click on a link and it links instead of having to copy and paste it.
• The facility to quote a post, this will avoid a lot of confusion.
• The ability to edit your own posts, this will save a lot of arguments.
• A ‘go to first unread post’ button on a thread.
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Posted By Alan Haynes
and perhaps some FAQs
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Posted By Chris Smith RSP
Hi all
I use a few forums (both safety and non-safety related) and find that the easier ones to use have threads grouped into sections; in this example Fire, PA Testing, RIDDOR etc. or even wider groups such as Accidents and Incidents, Chemical Safety etc. then as above.
Not only does this save posters and readers (with specific interests) time, it also enables users to find related threads easier and may even stave some of the more common entries like 'is this RIDDOR' , 'does my kettle need PAT Testing' etc.
Also an FAQ may assist new users with 'standard' questions.
The 'grouping' of threads would also enable sections such administration, moderators, members only etc.
Typically, and as an example, the Study Support Forum could be divided into NEBOSH Gen, NEBOSH Fire, Dip, NVQ, Providers...
Another feature I use regularly is a 'Links' section where users can link to sites by category rather than within a post so there is a concise (and ever-growing) list to external references, web-sites, etc.
Just some thoughts..
Chris
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Posted By Kevin D Forbes
Chris would you be interested n putting pen to paper and comming up with a form for the above mentioned site this is realy the first time ive used them and not much experience. i need something I can give to web design company to work from. Let me know if interested. Kev
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Posted By Kevin D Forbes
well was above mentioned seems IOSH are pooping their pants at the thought of some competition...
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Posted By Sharon
Something else too,
when viewing a thread and wanting to post only to find you have not logged in.....
suggestion is once logged in you are sent back to the thread you are viewing and not back to the main thread listing.
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Posted By Suffolkman
It would help me if i could put and hold my comments in a 'draft' response area before actually posting
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Posted By Sharon
Lets have some smilies too!
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Posted By Dave Merchant
Basically what you're all asking for is a phpBB or Invision message board, but the IOSH server is running ColdFusion - and the (free) choices for that platform are to say the least "limited".
I agree that this place is the Web2.0 equivalent of Life On Mars, but it has an advantage in being so feeble - the more features you allow, the more abuse the site admins have to deal with. We can't upload images, therefore nobody has to filter them for legality. We can't post link-encoded URLs, so nobody bothers to hide spam addresses in their posts. Maintaining a popular modern BB site is a full-time job (I know, I do it) and given how paranoid they are about AUG3, I can't see IOSH running banner ads to pay for that.
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Posted By Crim
Why not have a satisfaction questionnaire of some sort sent to the thread originator, after a period of time, with questions like,
Did you get what you wanted from the forum?
Was the input useful?
Were all contributions sensible?
Did contributors keep to the point?
Do you have any suggestions for improvement?
etc. etc. etc.
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Posted By Jay Joshi
The discussion forum is primarily for "discussion" and not as a portal for definitive guidance.
My understanding is that the front end of the IOSH website, including the discussion forums will undergo improvements with phase 3 of the IOSH IT project. IOSH can elaborate on it.
FAQ's on safety topics would have to be validated etc for accuracy, and that may be feasible.
The best OHS website for safety information in a simple and mostly topic based or Q & A based information is the Canadian Centre for Occupational Health & Safety (CCOHS):-
http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/
However, it is a Canadian federal government agency and resourced adequately.
http://www.ccohs.ca/ccohs.html
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Posted By Merv Newman
Dave Marchant,
"Basically what you're all asking for is a phpBB or Invision message board, but the IOSH server is running ColdFusion - and the (free) choices for that platform are to say the least "limited""
Does this site have a translation facility ? Or does that come under "limited" ?
I've just mentally run through half a dozen exclamation type phrases, the most polite of which were gobsmacked and boggled.
Does anyone up there speak H&S ?
Merv
OK. It's time for Countdown. Brain in gear.
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Posted By Chris Smith RSP
Kevin: Perhaps you could email me directly, I'm unsure of your request.
Dave: That's correct, most of my haunts are phpBB based which I also agree could be a burden and like you I also administer some of these so understand your concerns.
Perhaps Kevin's response to myself will elaborate on the request which Ill happily respond to. If help is needed with setup, etc. I am also willing (perhaps not so able as others tho')
Thanks
Chris
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Posted By Dave Merchant
Merv - ColdFusion, sold by Adobe, is the software system running the IOSH site, which is why all the page addresses end with ".cfm". Some people like ColdFusion, but only some. They tend to be the same people who sit on the top deck of an empty bus. I say this as an Adobe programmer who knows what CF can do (it runs some of the biggest Flash-based sites on the Web) but of course none of that is apparent from what you're looking at here...
All the major forum systems are written to only work on servers running PHP, which is by far the most common scripting language for webservers, and most people replying to this thread who've seen "things on forums they like" will have seen them on phpBB, a free system written in PHP that's used by around 10 million people every day. The standard page layout of topics-threads-posts is a phpBB thing. Invision is a commercial homage to phpBB, also designed for PHP rather than ColdFusion, and mostly used by corporations who get scared of something good being free and prefer to pay someone for what is 99% the same thing.
..and no, I don't talk H&S very often. Hanging off turbines is merely something to do when our computers crash.
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Posted By Renny Thomson
I'm used to php format BBs and they are far superior to this layout. They are used bu thousands of others and can be managed by a small handfull of (often volunteer) moderators and Aministrators.
The counter-arguments about spam can be dealt with by careful board setup limiting the functions available (there would still be far better functionality than here). Areas could be established for verified IOSH members, giving some confidence in the quality/competency of shared advice.
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Posted By Tom Loomes
Hi forum users,
As you might know we’re currently developing a brand new IOSH website. This is due to be launched in the autumn.
As part of our ongoing improvements to services, we've collected a lot of information from committees, workshops and events, from both members and non-members about redesigning the website. Last year we posted an online survey across the IOSH website for you to have your say about the website and forums. We had a great response and have used your feedback to develop the new IOSH website.
So what’s happening to the discussion forums? Well, our new forums will continue to offer the high standards that you’re used to, however, the look and feel will change completely. We need to compete with other leading forums and offer greater services, so we’ll be introducing new features such as:
- Private messaging
- Avatars – choose a personalised image that represents you
- My profile – a page about you
- Watch forums – keep an eye on specific threads
- Quote a post – lets you copy the post you’re referring to
- Enhanced search facility
- Forum/thread RSS feeds
- My favourite threads – keep a list of your top threads
The forums are due to be built soon and we’d like your help with the development and final design. This will involve trying out the new forums and features. If you can spare some time between April and August and would like to be part of the project, email me at tom.loomes@iosh.co.uk for more information.
Best regards,
Tom Loomes
Web Assistant
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Posted By Merv Newman
Dave, it would have been kinder to start your reply with "You won't understand, but I'll try anyway".
Some 20 years ago I used to write games programmes (as did all the family) (nice little earner) but I think things have passed me by. I am nowadays fairly fluent in H&S and could probably boggle you sideways in that.
Thanks for trying.
Tom,
I know it's Friday 13th but may I kiss you ? (la bise, nothing more serious)
Merv
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Posted By shaun mckeever
I'd be interested in voting buttons. So for example if someone posts a question which requires a yes/no answer it might be useful to the response. A bit like 'ask the audience'. The audience isn't necessarily always right but most of the time they are.
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Posted By Michelle
Revoke AUG3.
An absolute necessity.
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