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#1 Posted : 05 March 2009 12:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Decimomal
I know I have seen something in relation to the Management of Health and Safety that refers to small companies and the employment of family members - unfortunatly I cannot recall where I saw it.

Can anybody point me in the right direction?

Many thanks.
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#2 Posted : 05 March 2009 13:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter
There are some areas of exemption within the Employers’ Liability (Compulsory Insurance) Act 1969 where all employees are close family members?
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#3 Posted : 05 March 2009 13:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By A Campbell
I was on the understanding that everyone comes under this with the exception that only very small companies which only employ their owner are exempt from compulsory insurance?
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#4 Posted : 05 March 2009 13:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Roly Buss
This relates to the employment of young persons.
In the Management Regs Reg 2 "Disapplication of these Regs", Reg2(2) states that certain Regs do not apply to occaisonal work or short-term work involving domestic servants in a private household AND work not being harmful, damaging or dangerous to young people in a family undertaking.

The Regs that do not apply are:
* 3(4) & 3(5)- Risk Assessments for young people
* 10(2)- supplying of information to a parent
* 19 - Protection of young persons

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#5 Posted : 05 March 2009 14:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Decimomal
Thank Roly,

That isn't the one I ws thinking of but it is useful to know.

In the back of my mind is something telling me it might refer to small kiosk type outlets such as one see's on railway stations. Either that or I am having a senior moment and that it a completely different subject.

I will put my question another way. To what extent does a family business with five family members 'employed' need to have formal documented health and safety policy, organisation and arrangements (relatively 'low risk' activities)?

(I know all about the 'Five or more' rule).

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#6 Posted : 05 March 2009 14:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Roly Buss
Decimomal
The only other "let out" I am aware of is the Reg covering H&S Assistance Reg 7

7(6) excludes an individual who is an employer but not in a partnership with others, providing he has sufficient knowledge.

7(7) exludes individuals who are employers in partnership and one of the individuals has sufficient knowledge

Clearly a sales kiosk does not need much knowledge to ensure its safety, but it does require some due to its location, customers, displays etc

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#7 Posted : 05 March 2009 14:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Decimomal
Not that either - It will come to me eventually I am sure.

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#8 Posted : 05 March 2009 23:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter
To A Campbell: There are many exemptions from "compulsory" ELCI - including all Govt Departments, Local Authorities (although many choose to have it anyway). Check out info via HSE website.
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