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Posted By Scott Meechan
Hi Guys
Just a quick question, fairly new to this profession but would you say this injury is recordable? 2 inch head wound, IP was taken to hospital and they glued up the wound and let the IP return to work with no medication.
Thanks
Scott
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Posted By stephen d clarke
Hi,
Assuming IP isn employee and there was no fracture and the hospital stay wasn't more than 24 hours IMHO it's not RIDDOR reportable.
Steve
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Posted By Flic
Recordable - definitely. An injury should be recorded and management should be investigating with a view to preventing a re-occurrence.
If in the UK:
Reportable - probably not. If the IP is an employee, then the criteria for reporting include admittance to hospital for 24 hours or more, or being incapacitated for more than three days.
If the IP is not an employee, and the injury was attributable to your undertaking, then it is reportable.
I suggest you have a look at RIDDOR, if you are in the UK, it is SI no. 3163, 1995, and can be downloaded from the opsi website.
Flic
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Posted By A Campbell
Scott,
You do not offer any information regarding the nature/cause of the accident. Just the end result... so a very tentative no (with regards to no hospital admission, fracture, over 3 day injury etc)
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Posted By MartB
Hi Scott,
Could be reportbale if the injury was due to a dangerous occurrence.
Martb
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Posted By PMW
Hi Scott
It is not recordable under RIDDOR, but is recordable under your internal accident reporting system etc.
Good Luck
Pauline
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Posted By Coshh Assessor
I wonder if Scott means "recordable" under OSHA rules?
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Posted By A Campbell
Depends on what part of the world he is diving in I expect?
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Posted By Scott Meechan
Under OSHA rules would this be recordable then?
The incident was while cleaning a floor with a powerwasher, a piece of metal work came loose from a pillar and hit the IP on the forehead causing the cut.
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Posted By Ciaran McAleenan
Hello Scott
OSHA General Recording Criteria:- Employers must record new work-related injuries and illnesses that meet one or more of the general recording criteria or meet the recording criteria for specific types of conditions. Recordable work-related injuries and illnesses are those that result in one or more of the following:
Death,
Days away from work,
Restricted work,
Transfer to another job,
Medical treatment beyond first aid,
Loss of consciousness, or
Diagnosis of a significant injury or illness.
In your case you would be considering whether this is medical treatment beyond first aid. CFR 1904.7(b)(5)(ii)(D) referring to first aid states;
"Using wound coverings such as bandages, Band-Aids™, gauze pads, etc.; or using butterfly bandages or Steri-Strips™ [is first aid](other wound closing devices such as sutures, staples, etc., are considered medical treatment)"
Since the wound was glued up this is a recordable injury.
Best wishes
Ciaran
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Posted By Warsteiner
Quick question --> quick answer.
Record? Yes. Why? Cos some Social Security Act says; "ALL injuries no matter how small go into the accident book". Nout to do with the HSWA 1974 or RIDDOR etc.
RIDDOR? No.
Investigate? Well that's up to you and your gaffer. You set the standards at your place not me or others. In my place I investigate all accidents no matter how small and record the finding. But that's me, a fussy old giffer.
Regards
Wobbly
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Posted By Jay Joshi
Scott, if your "company" is a part of a large USA group, it is most likely that the generic reference "recordable" is in context of OSHA recordables, which have very specific & prescriptive "recording" criteria. I mention this with experience, as my employer also uses the OSHA recording (and not RIDDOR)for global benchmarking, especially for Total Recordable Incidence Rate (TRIR) and Lost Lime Incidence Rate (LTIR).
As mentioned previously, any "treatment" beyond first-aid is "recordable" , in most cases as medical treatment. In your case, application of medical glue is OSHA recordable as "Medical Treatment Case"
There is useful information at:-
http://www.osha.gov/pls/...vel=1&p_part_number=1904
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