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Posted By PMW
I have 2 engineers working on a 6m mobile scaffold. (both PASMA trained, experienced and competent and with outriggers etc) - don't panic! The MC insists on use of harnesses & a certificate to be provided. Our MS and RA's were accepted with no mention of Harness use or certificates. Also the MC is not requesting any proof that the engineers are trained to use harnesses (which they are or specifing where they should harness on to? Also no request for RA for harness either? All rather frustrating.
My questions is what sort of certificate do you think he wants? I am tempted just to buy new to save the hassle.
All constructive responses welcomed.
Pauline
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Posted By Ali
Harnesses fall under the PPE Regs 1992 and Work at Height Regs 2005 - both indicate a need for inspection. HSE guidance can be found in Indg367, explaining the inspection regime. I imagine the competenmt perosn inspecting this would issue some kind of report. If on hire then the hiring company would need to inspect .
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Posted By A Campbell
>>> Scratching head of what is the requirement to justify wearing a harness... attach to a tower scafold system... will this hold the force of a 16 stone bloke falling???
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Posted By PMW
MC has not clarified where engineer is to clip on to??? No obvious safe and secure point above head height. I agree, if you clip onto a mobile tower, then fall, you will pull it onto you.
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Posted By WayneF
Hi Pauline
We are having a similar situation with the insurance company. We have been advised that 'casual climber' training will surfice. Amazed that training providers do not have to be accredited to a regulatory body, though I believe there is a BS standard that escapes me at the moment to which it should comply.
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Posted By A Campbell
At the early stages of the work at height regs.... My old employer initiated a safe roof access training which involved use of harness, restraint & fall protection equipment, assessment training.
It was developed in conjunction with the national access & rescue centre in Cumbria.... included train the trainer course as well as contents and was excellent in advice.
You could try them or similar, especially if looking at a lot of work at height?
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Posted By Dave Merchant
Wayne - you're thinking of BS8454.
It's no surprise WAH trainers don't need to be "accredited to a regulatory body" as there isn't one. Never has been, probably never will be.
Basic climber training (aka 'casual' or 'occasional') would *only* be suitable if the training addresses the specifics of climbing on scaffolding structures. The standard courses assume the structure is permanent and loadbearing (steelwork, radio masts, etc.) and the issues of anchoring to scaffold are entirely different. Clip in the wrong place and you'll hit the ground moments before the tower does.
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