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Posted By Safe System
So, what do we all think of the Health & Safety law poster that comes into effect on Monday (6th)??
Any views on not having to enter details of the local HSE offices, medical, safety reps or other safety contacts etc...
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Posted By Raymond Rapp
It is about time they reviewed the poster, shame the powers that be did not feel the same about HSWA.
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter
Even though the details do not have to be put on the poster, employees need to be told where to find them; why not just leave them on the poster then?
Paul
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Posted By garyh
In my view (and based on 25 years experience) the law poster is as much use as a chocolate fireguard.
Waate of time, money and effort.
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Posted By JimE
Before I entered the wonderful world of H&S I had never noticed the poster. So yes...the chocolate fireguard answer for me too.
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Posted By Raymond Rapp
Jay
Whilst we may not be able to able to change the HSEs view now, there is no harm in discussing the pros and cons of the new poster.
There is also an assumption that those who have commented did not contribute to the HSE's consultation process, which may not be correct.
Ray
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Posted By Mike Parks
Hi
I have not seen the new poster yet, but if it is along the same lines of the previous ones then it will make little difference to the workplace.
Most employees where I work could not even say where the posters are let alone what it says. IMO I doubt it will make much difference to most workers safety.
Mike
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Posted By graeme12345
Jay, I commented on the process and thought it was a load of rubbish,
HSE stated, £140.000 for the company who drew up the design for the poster (that's money well spent isn't it), so called savings to industry about £63 million (for would you believe, the amount of time it supposedly took persons to fill in the old poster every year)
What these consultations really need is for all comments to be seen (you cannot at the moment, so if they want anything to be passed the HSE can just say all comments were positive, otherwise how can contributors gage which way the vote is going / gone, you do not need to put a name to comments, so data protection act is safe,
It's the same all over,these consultations appear fair but you have only to scratch the surface and they are biased towards the HSE / Government
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Posted By Jay Joshi
There was no IOSH response to this consultation.
In my view, if safety organisations such as IOSH, IIRSM, BSC & ROSPA respond to HSE consultations, they have more "clout" compared to anyone responding as an individual.
There is no requirement to change the posters, you can continue using the old style ones.
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Posted By MarcusB
Until 5 April 2014...
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Another set of SMSTS/SSSTS exam papers are now out of date with their questions as is at least some of the CSCS questions!! :-)
Bob
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Posted By Francis E S Hone
Do we have to display the new poster or can we leave the old one in place?
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Posted By Ron Hunter
Your answer lies above Frances. Provided it remains legible, existing Posters can remain in place for 5 years.
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Posted By phalda
With regard to the poster not being read...
We place ours on the back of the door of the toilet cubicle.. (As well as canteen notice board).. They do get read a bit more in the toilets.. and its useful to see some of the opinions that are written on them from time to time...
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Posted By gerard.brown
Is there any plans to change the poster for Northern Ireland?
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Posted By Martin Taylor
Where can we see the details of this poster - I saw a little picture on the HSE website but can't really tell what it says from there
thanks
martin
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter
Martin
Since the poster is not free, I guess you will need to buy one in order to read it!
Paul
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Posted By John Richards
"HSE has published a new, simplified version of the Health and Safety Law Poster. It tells workers what they and their employers need to do in simple terms, using numbered lists of basic points. As an employer, you are required by law to either display the HSE-approved poster or to provide each of your workers with the equivalent ‘leaflet’. The law has been changed — for the new poster you don’t have to add contact details of your enforcing authority and HSE’s Employment Medical Advisory Service. You **can** add details of any employee safety representatives or other health and safety contacts, but this is not compulsory"
So.
You can add the details (as above) if you WANT to. But since having the number on an easily-read notice is tantamount to increasing the number of whislteblowing phone calls, maybe you should not put the hse number on it ?
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Posted By Martin Taylor
Is this correct about not requiring to display the HSE and EMAS contact - I thought that that was still included
Martin
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Posted By Safe System It is correct Martin. The law has been changed — for the new poster you don’t have to add contact details of your enforcing authority and HSE’s Employment Medical Advisory Service. You can add details of any employee safety representatives or other health and safety contacts, but this is not compulsory. please see: http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/books/lawposter.htmSS
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Posted By Paul Graham Baskeyfield
The new poster does not need to be displayed until April 4 2014, but I think its a good idea to display it asap as it gives a better impression to all & is easier to read. However, as my spending is constrained to 'essential' only at the moment, is there a free downloadable version anywhere - or is the HSE more interested in making money than getting the message across? Is it copyright, or can I buy one & copy/laminate it to make the several I need?
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter
Paul
The posters are HSE copyright.
Each poster will, according to the HSE website, contain a unique, numbered hologram to ensure authenticity.
Paul
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Posted By A Campbell
I think bugets may dictate that more will be sold towards 2014.... as we have 52 sites to change over to!
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Posted By Emyr Evans Will the poster be available in Welsh? If so, when? I recently did a H&S coursethrough the medium of Welsh & did some research. 3 years after the implementation of the The Control of Noise at Work Regulations 2005, the official advice from the HSE is still quoting the old 85/90dB. http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/welsh/as8.htm
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Posted By Brian Hagyard As with the previous version there is a PDF leaflet available at www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/law.pdffrom the fuzzy picture on the new law poster on the HSE site it looks like a direct copy with a block of 10 points (what employers must do) 4 points (what you must do) and then 3 points (if there's a problem. What is confusing me is that it states that it is a web version of the pocket card that can be given out to everyone rather than use the poster but that its still crown copyright. The old leaflet could be printed and distributed free of charge (except for the ink, electricity, paper costs etc) - so how is this saving industry money? I two remain sceptical about its value - but then I suppose most of us on this site know this information anyway and so the poster is not aimed at us! I will reserve final judgement. Brian
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Posted By artisdeeian
For goodness sake. what on earth do we need a new version of the poster for. OK, we have to display it, but isn't this another money making excersize. The old one gave us all the information we needed.
Ian
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