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#1 Posted : 08 April 2009 20:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Crim Hi, I have recently been advised that an Appointed Person first aider can only cover up to 5 persons on site. Once more than 5 persons are on site an Approved First Aider is required. Is this true?
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#2 Posted : 08 April 2009 22:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter Complete and utter tosh.
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#3 Posted : 09 April 2009 05:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dav Your source of information may be correct. Check out INDG 214 (First aid at Work) which you should be able to find on Google. There is a table in there which provides guidance on the numbers of appointed persons and first aiders that you should have for different categories of risk. This does confirm that for a site of up to 5 you need an appointed person and for numbers over that you need a first aider. However, this is guidance only, and the specific risk of each site would need to be taken into account. However, despite this guidance, I personally would always look to have a first aider at hand, how ever many people were around.
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#4 Posted : 09 April 2009 07:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel as already stated risk assess in some gangs of ~4-5 people all staff are first aiders. this because of the risk present - in other areas we only have 1 FA [ plus back up!] for to ~50 staff
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#5 Posted : 09 April 2009 09:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Crim Dav, Bob, thanks for the info. Ron, thanks also, I did have the same opinion as you but now think differently. The value of this forum eh!
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#6 Posted : 10 April 2009 23:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter Any and all construction works involving more than 5 people then requiring a fully qualified First Aider? I'll stick with my intitial judgement thanks - I like sensible H&S.
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#7 Posted : 12 April 2009 05:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dav I like sensible H+S too, and in my opinion the guidelines i mentioned are reasonable.
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#8 Posted : 12 April 2009 10:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard B As already mentioned risk assessment is the key. You should consider factors such as: Location and attendance times of emergency services How hazardous the workplace is Numbers of staff Processes used at site There are some good articles here which explore first aid and other health and safety issues: http://www.rbhealthandsafety.co.uk/articles.html
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#9 Posted : 15 April 2009 18:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Crim If one appointed person can cover 5 people on site can we allow apointed persons to cover multiples of 5 persons, i.e.14 on site = 3 appointed persons?
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#10 Posted : 16 April 2009 07:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dav Not according to the guidance - over 5 you need a first aider. However, as had been mentioned already, this is a guideline only and risk assessment of the situation is the key.
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