Posted By Scotty Hi Kerry It very much depends on the situation etc but for what it's worth I've used '3 strikes and you're out' method. The three strikes I've used are 1) a quiet word in their shell-like, emphasising the importance of wearing PPE 2) a formal 'chat without coffee (!)' clearly stating the need to wear it and comply with all the relevant areas with the clear focus that any future repeats may result in disciplinary action 3) formal disciplinary action to be considered, following thorough investigation. This may seem a long winded process, but believe me if people repeat often, you find yourself at stage 3 pretty quickly. Disciplinary action should not be seen as an end in itself (the proverbial stick to beat people with and a threat to their job), but should be implemented with a purpose for improvement, along with clear statement that further action will be considered if there is no improvement in work practice. Docking pay can be a bit of dodgy one, cos you're effectively changing peoples contract of employment (unless of course, it's written in there that pay will be docked etc etc!). Cue debate about how quickly to discipline people.....??

Posted By Francis E S Hone Ask the supervisor if wants to supervise or be one of the guys He soon started telling them to wear the required PPE Frank

Posted By TonyB Kerry, I don't see the issue. Discipline is never a pleasant thing to do but if needed it must be used. I like the three sticks and out approached discussed above. This is often very effective. I really like the 'Tackle the Supervisor' approach because its them with the legal duty to enforce compliance on a day to day basis. Franks "ask the supervisor if wants to supervise or be one of the guy" is a corker - with Franks permission I'll use that for training purposes! Bottom line (as I'm sure your aware) employees have a legal duty to cooperate and Supervisors (as well as the rest of management) have a legal duty to make sure they cooperate. If all else falls start quoting section 7 & 36 of HSWA to them and there consequences - which now includes possible loss of liberty. TonyB

Posted By TonyB Dave, HSWA Section 36 "36.-(1) Where the commission by any person of an offence under any of the relevant statutory provisions is due to the act or default of some other person. that other person shall be guilty of the offence. and may be charged with and convicted of the offence by virtue of this subsection whether or not proceedings are taken against the first-mentioned person." Crown Copyright - waivered Therefore - if employee breaches section 7, the Supervisor either by his/her actions (allowing) or default (not checking) is also guilty of the offence. This is the bit of the law the HSE used for Supervisors that don't supervise. For Senior management they use section 37. Hope it helps TonyB

Posted By Safe System I do not think there has been a wrong answer... We tend to incorporate the 3 strike method but I am fairly fortunate in that all of my guys are very good with PPE (even hard hats when no-one else on site is wearing them!) However, on the rare occasion, i tend to have a word with them and explain to them about what the risk assessment and method statement states about required PPE (or site rules) . . I then proceed to explain something to them that most didn't realise.. If your at work and you are not working to the agreed method statement (including correct PPE) and you have an accident... you can kiss your insurance payout goodbye.. how would that affect them or their family? .. usually has a sobering effect.