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#1 Posted : 24 April 2009 14:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Decimomal Are there Any DSE experts out there who could help with a query? The company have recently amended computer systems and users can no longer use the right click facility on their mouse to copy and paste. As you can imagine this is very frustrating especially when people have been doing this for donkeys years. My conundrum is that the use of the mouse is covered in an Appendix to the DSE Regs and not in the Regs themselves. I believe the company are in breach of the spirit of the Regulations if not with the Regulations specifically. How would you suggest this is formally brought up with the powers that be? I do not want to say that they are breaching DSE Regs with this only for them to come back and say that actually they are not. All serious respnses welcome, particularly from and DSE experts. Many thanks.
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#2 Posted : 24 April 2009 14:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter What reason did the company give for removing this useful shortcut? Paul
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#3 Posted : 24 April 2009 14:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian_P Strange one that! Not sure why they would do that - have you anymore info? Wouldn't affect me, always prefer to use CTRL C and CTRL V anyway, miles faster!
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#4 Posted : 24 April 2009 14:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stewart Campbell Tell everyone to use the keyboard shortcut Ctrl C to copy Ctrl V to Paste Ctrl X to cut This is a far quicker way to copy and paste than using the mouse. Stewart
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#5 Posted : 24 April 2009 14:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Decimomal No reasons given. To be honest it is a bit technical involving third parties, platforms and all sorts of 'techie' type stuff. All I know is that I can't copy and past with my mouse and I find Control C/V a pain.
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#6 Posted : 24 April 2009 14:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Decimomal I do appreciate the tips folks, but we are going slightly off topic already. I am wondering whether there is a breach of the DSE Regs and if so in what way? Many thanks
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#7 Posted : 24 April 2009 14:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By tia_tasha im no expert but i can imagine there has been no breach. the function for copy/paste is merely a working method/working instruction. I cannot perceive any regulations have been affected.... one of the strangest topics i have yet to post on, i cannot deem this to be of much a problem just more of a nuisance...
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#8 Posted : 24 April 2009 14:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuff4blokes I do not see this as a H&S issue and struggle to see where it is a breach of the DSE Regs.
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#9 Posted : 24 April 2009 14:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tabs Your only hope lies in part 4 of The Schedule which writes about interface between computer and operator/user. Parts (b) and (e) might help, but to be honest I think you are onto a looser with this one. Thankfully the regs are not so prescriptive as to describe how every function should be done (nightmare for us trying to meet such requirements whilst still progressing).
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#10 Posted : 24 April 2009 14:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil Rose I think you would be 'pushing it' to suggest a breach of DSE regs to be honest. Yes, I agree that the key strokes Ctrl V etc are very handy and faster.
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#11 Posted : 24 April 2009 14:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Decimomal I just knew I was going to regret posting this! Definitely a nuisance but the crux is not being able to use an application that was previously available. Where a mouse is provided should all its functions be functional? Health and Safety issue = potential STRESS (Not shouting at anybody here). If you spend a lot of time copying and pasting it gets to be tiresome. Thanks for the interest anyway.
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#12 Posted : 24 April 2009 15:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By D H Why not re evaluate every one at their work station when the new system is in place and log any complaints they have? Sufficient number of complaints may lead to a change of heart? Dave
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#13 Posted : 24 April 2009 15:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Smith I would suugest you might want to focus on the long term ergonmic problems that can be caused by the incorrect use of a mouse, stress caused by left & right clicking? Long term ulna or radial deviation can lead to problems. I realy think that you would get more stressed if the mouse wasn't working properly or if your IT dept were taking along time to come along & fix it!.
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#14 Posted : 24 April 2009 15:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Decimomal Thanks folks, Topic now closed. Have a great weekend all.
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#15 Posted : 24 April 2009 15:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian_P Last time I try and help.
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#16 Posted : 24 April 2009 15:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Decimomal Grateful for the help. It put things in the perspective as they should have been seen by me in the first place. (Nearing the end of a bad week.
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#17 Posted : 24 April 2009 16:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By D H Decimomal - soon be the weekend - enjoy!! Dave
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#18 Posted : 26 April 2009 23:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter OK, so the DSE angle was a dead-end. Back to the contract terms then. Your supplier/contractor/third party has removed an every-day part of the functionality of Microsoft Office (and perhaps other systems). That should be seen as a failure to deliver against contract. Cut and paste is only one of dozens of functions across the entire MS package where many of us choose to use the RH button!
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#19 Posted : 27 April 2009 19:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Decimomal Thanks Ron
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