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#1 Posted : 30 April 2009 11:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Biggles473
All,

Just asking for an opinion really please.

We've had fire registers in our company for many years for obvious reasons, but now we have been informed that we must not just tick in but actually write in the time that we arrive and leave as well.

I've questioned the reasoning behind this but have been told it's the way we do business now.

Quite a few individuals are unhappy at this method of control as they see it and perceive the H&S Fire Register as a tool to manage them out of the business. Naturally they are blaming me for this, but I have no control over this at all.

What's your view of the purpose of a tick in style fire register versus a clocking system.

Thanks,

Biggles473 Tech IOSH
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#2 Posted : 30 April 2009 14:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Crim
Many years ago I introduced a "sign in book" that would become the fire register in case of evacuation, there was a column for signing in and another for signing out.

The MD saw this as a way of checking up on his workers and he changed the final column to "Time out".

He then used the book to check up on individuals working hours.

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#3 Posted : 30 April 2009 14:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Messy Shaw
From a fire point of view, any booking-in system is only as good as it is managed. If it is not completed 100% of the time by 100% of the occupants, then it's 100% useless.

The system must include visitors, and senior management - even (indeed especially) anyone popping around the corner to buy a sandwich.

As for the ethical 'big- brother' side of putting in the times - although I'd hate it, I suppose if your bosses are paying you to be somewhere at a certain time and want to manage that is happening - I suppose it's reasonable.

Being self employed, I am certainly noticed by my customers if I am late!!
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#4 Posted : 30 April 2009 15:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Biggles473
Messy,

I appreciate your comments but as I have 3 sites to look after, about 30 miles away from each other it won't look good if I get to work at 8.45am because I've been on another site at 7.00am.

It's all about perception I guess but some staff are hot under the collar about this.

If you ask me it's a poor tactic to use to "manage" the staff movements.

I'm not in favour of my fire register being seconded like this but who am I...a lowly safety officer and made to feel that way too.

I'm looking at the thread "Why did you choose H&S as a job" and it strikes me it wasn't to work for a company like mine.

Still never mind, at least I've got a job.

Now what's that Smith's song again...oh yeh!

I was looking for a job then I found a job, and heaven knows I'm miserable now!

Biggles473
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#5 Posted : 30 April 2009 16:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuff4blokes
Biggles, if you feel that your fire register is being hijacked, why not review your fire risk assessment? You may possibly conclude that a better way of establishing "all safe" is to use trained fire marshalls, thus making the fire register obsolete.
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#6 Posted : 30 April 2009 21:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC
I've never been in favour of a fire register for many of the reasons mentioned. If someone forgets to sign out are you going to put the Fire and Rescue service at risk? Fire Marshalls sweeping the floor areas and reporting to a Evac Co-ordinator is better.
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