Posted By Francis E S Hone It seems ROSPA don't disagree with child's play after all a quick phone call to them and i got the answer myself. it depends on the trainers preference. so dynamic lift close to body knees relaxed / slightly flexed. Regards to all Frank

Posted By Pete Longworth The problem is that manual handling is about much more that lifting a box from the floor. Child's Play only lasts 4 minutes and is OK but only as part of a course who's aim is to show people how to plan a manual handling task, taking into account things like: Physical characteristics of the load eg size, weight, anything intrinsically harmful (sharp edges etc), any carrying points Physical capabilities of the individual, fitness, gender, age, state of health, stature Details of the task eg repetitions, carrying distance, postural constraints, one or 2 man lift, carrying aids etc Details of the environment such as temperature, lighting, other activities going (FLTs etc, condition of floors, changes in level (stairs etc), doorways, obstacles. Just concentrating on lifting misses out on all of these.

Posted By Stephen Gilpin found it thanks

Posted By Biggles473 Francis, I've viewed thid DVD and didn't like it, the bending of the legs is great but lifting is so much more than this. When the child grabs the box they do so from the sides not underneath and tightly towards the body. I recently (Oct 08) spent 2 days at the Food & Drink seminar in Blackpool and was given to understand the the HSL are now favouring slight bending of the back for older less mobile staff who cannot possibly bend the knees alone to get down to floor level. I can see clear benefits of using a whole body lift. Child's Play...not for me thanks. Biggles473

Posted By sylvia Agree with Flic - children are built differently. A couple of years ago when I tried to demonstrate to my colleagues how impossible it was for an adult to replicate the angles shown in Childs Play, (being an agile MH Trainer!) I strained my hip quite badly, which they all thought quite amusing. I limped for days. Never used it since . .

Posted By David Passmore Although generic manual handling training is beneficial, I firmly believe that job/task specific MH training in relation to the work being carried out is vital. Demonstrating to someone the correct method of lifting/carrying using an empty cardboard box is somewhat pointless to someone such as a dreyman for instance - trust me on that one! Everyone is different and so are the variety of jobs and tasks carried out every day in the workplace - and the home for that matter - and the type of MH training should relate to all of those factors.