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#1 Posted : 12 May 2009 23:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By ian_f I have got brain freeze... I have received a method statement stating that a mewp will be used (within a person in the basket at the same time) to lift a section of pipe weighing 110kg via chain slings from ground to a scaffold platform around 4m up where the pipe will be moved to an upright position and then lowered via the mewp into its fixing location on a pitched roof. Can a mewp be used for this type of operation? I just can't picture it...?
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#2 Posted : 13 May 2009 08:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel sometimes you have to go outside the box so if this is the 'best' way, all things considered, then it may be the only way regards
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#3 Posted : 13 May 2009 08:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Pope At the recent Bristol IOSH meeting principal construction inspector Andrew Kingscott said he was on a personal mission in his territory to put a stop to MEWPs lifting such materials as pipes. His issue was of course that this is outside the manufacturer's specification and that handrails are not designed to support loads. However he was not particularly specific about alternatives. I have found that the glazging industry has developed some innovative cranes so you might find it useful to talk to mini crane hirers like GGR, Sparrow Bristol etc
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#4 Posted : 13 May 2009 10:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Liz Maw Hello there I have to say I don't like the idea of it. I was also at the Bristol IOSH Meeting where Andrew Kingscott Principal Construction Inspector went through accidents that had occured where MEWPs had been used for lifting purposes. There will be weight restrictions and how the pipe might affect the stability of the MEWP to take into acount. I would agree that a crane might be a better solution.
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#5 Posted : 13 May 2009 12:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By toby liberson For me it would be an emphatic NO! MEWPs are as their name implies are Working Platforms and are not design for slung loads. That a contractor would even suggest this type of operation would have me questioning his competence.
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#6 Posted : 13 May 2009 12:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert Skinner Definitely not!
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#7 Posted : 13 May 2009 13:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By JE From exprience, I once not so long ago worked for a glazing company that used to install large glass units. On arriving at the company on the first day, i visited site to find the guys there using a MEWP to lift large glass units...lets just say it was the last time they did. The problem as already stated with MEWP's is that handrails arent designed to hold material, plus, if the guys in the basket are lifting material, they have to lift it out and over the rails which in the case of glass is ridiculous!! We then went over to using the Mini crawler cranes which were proved to be superb for the job, even though I was told by the contracts manager for the job with 10+ years experience that they were not suited for the job. So to answer your question, the MEWP is a big no no!!
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#8 Posted : 15 May 2009 09:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By James K MEWPs are NOT designed for lifting materials at all. In my working environment we use MEWPs a lot and are constantly coming across problems just like the one mentioned. We do not allow materials of any kind to be lifted on the handrails of MEWPs. Now having said that the training company that we use does allow for materials to be stored INSIDE the basket of scissors lifts (5390s) but not inside 1932s or cherry pickers, as long as the SWL is not exceeded.
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#9 Posted : 15 May 2009 14:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By justgossip What if the weight is within the safe working load and positioned so as not to effect the stability and strenght of the MEWP Garry
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#10 Posted : 15 May 2009 14:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Safety Couch Definitely not.....if the MEWP was to overturn during the lifting process, i would like to see you explain to the HSE why a crane was not more suitable. MEWPS are working platforms and not for lifting materials. There are lots of new combined access / lifting equipment on the market..."Facelift have a couple".... or a cheaper option; could a hoist not be anchored above, to lift the pipe while the operative works from the MEWP? Steve
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