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#1 Posted : 15 May 2009 09:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By WayneF Learned members Can anyone point me in the direction of the legislation regarding the need to display warning signs for various hazardous substances carried on vehicles. I believe gas cylinders are covered but not sure about cylinder size, and I am unsure if signage is needed for casual carraige or just constant (though it shouldn't make any difference). Thanks Wayne
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#2 Posted : 15 May 2009 10:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Merchant http://www.hse.gov.uk/cdg/regs.htm
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#3 Posted : 15 May 2009 12:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson Marking and placarding of vehicles which transport Dangerous / Hazardous good is covered in CDG Regs 07 and ADR. You only have to do this when the vehicles are 'ACTUALLY' in scope when carrying, it is an offence not to display and it is also an offence to display when not carrying DG's. I know that some people put the classification signs i.e. compressed gas, on the back of vehicles etc, there is no legal requirement to do so, this 'Class Sign' does not mean diddly squat to the Emergency Services unless it is accompanied with the UN Number and the EAC code. What type of Compressed gas? How would the Fire Service know what type of extinguishing media is required and how dangerous is the stuff being carried.
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#4 Posted : 15 May 2009 12:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By WayneF Thanks gents, I appreciated the summary as the regs are heavy going, but I get the gist - damned if you do, damned if you dont.
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#5 Posted : 15 May 2009 13:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jay Joshi You could refer to BCGA's Guidance for drivers at work titles "Carriage of gas cylinders by road in cars, vans and other vehicles" at:- http://www.bcga.co.uk/publications/L1.pdf
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#6 Posted : 15 May 2009 15:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson Jay, A lot of this information in this document is out of date and is superseded by CDG 07 and ADR. Also be aware that the Instruction in writing and the emergency equipment to be carried changes on 1st July
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#7 Posted : 13 June 2009 00:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Clark Wayne, ADR - and it's changed, in particular the requirement for placarding in relation to Limited Quantities. It's available online from the UN website http://www.unece.org/tra...adr2007/07ContentsE.html
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#8 Posted : 13 June 2009 07:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Ritchie WayneF, Go to: The Carriage Of Dangerous Goods And Use Of Transportable Pressure Equipment Regulations 2009 (UK) http://www.opsi.gov.uk/s...pdf/uksi_20091348_en.pdf Explanatory Memorandum http://www.opsi.gov.uk/s...m/uksiem_20091348_en.pdf These regulations will then direct you to the UN ECE website: http://www.unece.org/tra...adr2009/09ContentsE.html First see Sub section 1.1.3.6 to see if you can claim exemptions to veicle markings for packages. Then see Chapter 5.3 for vehicle marking. If you wish I can post a handbook that covers vehicle marking published by The National Dangerous Goods Training Consortium, www.ndgtc.co.uk. David Ritchie (Dangerous Goods Safety Advisor and Instructor)
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#9 Posted : 15 June 2009 09:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By WayneF Steve/David Thanks for the response guys, it's all been very useful. On the whole we meet the exemptions for display but find it strange there isn't an intermediate colour for small quantities, I mean how many cylinders need to explode to be considered dangerous? David I would like to take you up on your offer of the handbook but not sure how to contact you direct? (am not a fully paid up member (BIFM man))
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#10 Posted : 22 June 2009 17:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By ngevans The ADR Regs have a load of exemptions related to quantity carried and also the nature of your business. A cylinder is any pressurised container under 150 litres water volume. It may seem odd to exempt them from some regs but bear in mind that your vehicle also has maybe 50 litres of petrol and that's exempt from the regs. I've just sat my DGSA exams so I know how complex the regs are but they are quite pragmatic.
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