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#1 Posted : 01 June 2009 09:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Safe System
This is going to sound a very stupid, basic question but i think I've had to much sun this weekend!

Who in the company is responsible for the day to day responsibilities for the management of H&S... is it the director or advisor?

and

Who has the responsibilities for the site H&S is that the advisor or the site manager or project manager?

Cheers,

SS
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#2 Posted : 01 June 2009 09:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuff4blokes
Your H&S Policy and accompanying Organisation description should give you the answer. If not, the Directors have decisions to make.

H&S advisers generally advise, whilst managers manage. Both have responsibility to ensure that their jobs are done in an appropriate manner.
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#3 Posted : 01 June 2009 09:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Packham
I would contend that it is he or she who makes the day to day decisions about how work is carried out who should bear the responsibility. The director or senior manager can only set the policy and standards and monitor, so far as possible, that these are being adhered to. They cannot monitor every decision on site, nor can the health and safety advisor, so those who are empowered to change operating practice, make decisions about how a particular job should be carried out, etc., should be sufficiently competent to (a) understand the risks that their decision might create and (b) know how to manage these or at least when to call for help.

Chris
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#4 Posted : 01 June 2009 10:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By martinw
Hi Safe
bear in mind also the difference between 'responsibility' and 'accountability': by this I mean the the adviser may be responsible for getting their advice correct but the site manager may be responsible and accountable for the manner in which the safety instructions are actioned etc.because they are in overall control of the site/facility. Think of vicarious liability and that will give it some shape.
Cheers
M
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#5 Posted : 01 June 2009 10:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp
In law, and that is what counts here, the person in charge of the company (MD/CEO) is ultimately responsible and accountable for health and safety. He/she can delegate responsibilities as they choose and to some extent the persons delegated are responsible for those matters down through the management chain. That's it in a nutshell.
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#6 Posted : 01 June 2009 20:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil Rose
I can't see that the CEO in most medium or large organisations would be responsible for the "day to day" management of health and safety! And I don't think that the 'law' or the courts would expect them to either.

'Stuff' comes closest surely? DAY TO DAY responsibility would be detailed in the SP and would normally be operational managers wouldn't it?
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#7 Posted : 02 June 2009 10:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By b318isp
The CEO may be considered to represent the company and its will in any legal action taken against it and hence be held personally liable for acts or omissions on its part - so senior managers and directors are accountable. Front line management may be seen to be the persons in control of works and may also be personally responsible for any acts or omissions. So, both are legally culpable - I see Directors as being legally accountable and management as legally responsible.
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#8 Posted : 02 June 2009 12:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Y
The CEO of any business is (theoretically) ultimately responsible for everything that goes on within that business. In practice the CEO of a large business is rarely held personally accountable for the health and safety failings of that company. The question was the responsibility for day to day H&S and as has already been alluded to and said, that in reality that generally falls to operational managers
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#9 Posted : 02 June 2009 12:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter
A delegation of responsibility does not absolve from ultimate accountability.
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