Posted By Rob sharp Hi all, The company I work for is about to carry out a shop re-fit. Will this come under the CDM regs? If so can anyone point in the right direction of what I will need in place to comply with CDM Many Thanks in Advance Rob

Posted By W P F MMMMmmmm. concur with the last, but 500 man hours isn't a lot to be fair. 2 x shifts of 8 hours each per day = 16 hours x 10 staff = 160 hours x 3.5 days of work = 560 man hours. So you need to be aware of the man-hour issue perhaps more than the 30days. If its over 500hours then you need to submit a F10 which will be available on the hse website. Cheers and good luck. WPF

Posted By Rob sharp No, it should last no longer than a couple of weeks from start to finish. One other question. They are planning to keep the store open for this time. My question is if a member of the public was injured by something the contractor did would we be held responsible or the contractor? Thanks again

Posted By Richard Altoft CDM applies but not notifiable to HSE unless 30 days or 500 man days exceed etc R

Posted By Alison Parker Robbie – when calculating man hours – you will need to consider the store staff who may well be involved in any stock and fitting movements to support the project. Technically they form part of the project. This process is not uncommon in retail to use staff this way – well away form any high risk activity needless to say!! I would not have thought a 2 week project will get you near this but doo consider! Have you considered nigh shift work for the project – eliminating interaction between contractors and MOTP? The client and the contractor both have a duty of care – there are many reasons how an accident could occur in these projects. Yes they could be held accountable but the client and you (your company) should have robust systems and procedures in place from contractor selection all the way up to job closedown – ensuring cooperation and coordination throughout the project. Any liability will be placed as a result and subsequent identification of any failings.

Posted By Southerner Why are people on about MAN HOURS???? Its MAN DAYS. Crikey if you don't know the very basics about a subject you should not be giving dodgy advice.

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