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#1 Posted : 03 June 2009 09:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ucan Hi all, we have some employees working in Egypt at the moment and the temperatures are reaching up to 38-40 degrees with no air conditioning in the building they are working in. They are asking about working practices on breaks etc due to possible heat exhaustion. I am saying that they should drink plenty of fluids and take regular breaks, but how regular are the breaks to be? Anyone suggest anything else they could do??
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#2 Posted : 03 June 2009 09:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter F This would depend on an assessment and would depend on the type of tasks.
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#3 Posted : 03 June 2009 09:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Swis Carrying out an assessment is not a requirement in Egypt. (Depending on the tasks taken) frequent breaks won’t decrease the temperatures. Provision of Fans/Air coolers is the only option. Alternative would be a longer break at mid-day which can be compensated at cooler times.
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#4 Posted : 03 June 2009 10:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Packham Whereabouts in Egypt are they working? The reason I ask is related to relative humidity. When I worked in Libya (many years ago) temperatures in our oil production centre inland were several degrees higher than at the tanker terminal on the coast. However, there was also a significant difference in relative humidity, this being very high at the coast and much lower inland. As a result working in the production centre was actually much more comfortable than at the coast. This can be important. For example, sweating ceases to be an effective means of heat loss if ambient temperature exceeds 37 deg C and relative humidity is above 80%. We found fans were of considerable help in preventing heat stress in such conditions. We actually provided isotonic drinks to workers and found that this was beneficial, even if it did not eliminate the discomfort. Chris
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#5 Posted : 03 June 2009 10:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By ARUN 15-20 minutes rest pauses with adequate liquid intake.
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#6 Posted : 03 June 2009 10:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Swis Arun, 15-20 mins ?? Every hour or once a day?
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#7 Posted : 03 June 2009 10:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By GeoffB4 Any other type of cooling possible eg fans?
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#8 Posted : 03 June 2009 11:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ucan They are actually working in Cairo.
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#9 Posted : 03 June 2009 13:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By safetyamateur Ucan, I expected others to come up with reference to a particular bit of guidance which you'd find useful. I can't put my hand on the title but it involves taking measurements of temperature and humidity with a Wet Bulb Globe Thermometer. Depending on the readings you get, there is guidance on what the work/rest regime should be. It's been a while since I've used it in a completely different organisation. Anyone out there know what I'm on about?
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#10 Posted : 03 June 2009 13:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jay Joshi There are several countries in the world where millions of people live and work without significant adverse effects because the human body is adaptable and it is not possible to provide cooling in the form of air conditioning or cooling everywhere. The most important factors are adequate hydration, clothing (not the lack of it!!!) as the type and design of clothing can influence the sweat absorption and evaporation rate and also provide a shading. Air movement facilitates evaporation of sweat and cools the body. Working under any type of shade also helps compared to working directly under the sun. Avoiding work during the hottest part of the day could be an option. Actual heat stress measurement by using WGBT should be done when there is significant physical activity requiring the use of PPE that may restrict sweating and when natural cooling is ineffective, i.e in confined or similar spaces.
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#11 Posted : 03 June 2009 13:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By A Campbell I remember in the forces they used a system like the heat stress index to determine what precautions should be taken regarding physical activities (route marches etc) HSE have a link regarding Wet Bulb Globe http://www.hse.gov.uk/te...n/heatstress/measure.htm
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#12 Posted : 04 June 2009 18:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By SN May be missing the obvious here but why not get portable AC units ? If these guys are not doing anything physical then saying take a 20 min break really isnt going to do an awful lot if they are still exposed to the ambient temperature. After saying that 38 is still quite "do-able" for the average bloke especially if the work isnt physical. Things start getting crappy once in the 40's and very crappy in the upper 40's especially with high humidity. As a rule of thumb an average person will only going to be able to absorb 1/2 litre of water per hour regardless of the quantity you drink. This can be upped to .75 litre with the use of rehydration salts but you are always going to be in a deficit as you will sweat somewhere around 2 litres of fluid per hour if grafting. There are plenty of urine colour charts out there that relate urine colour to dehydration however the best I have seen was one poached from the US Navy that showed how many canteens of water you needed to take to get back to a happy state.
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