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#1 Posted : 08 June 2009 15:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ger Slyne Hi all, Can anybody help me with some info on the above. I have been asked by my boss to investigate its use in our first aid kits bit I am struggling to find decent info on it. I look forward to any reply, Regards Ger
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#2 Posted : 08 June 2009 16:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Simon Chidwick Have googled it and threw up loads of info. It is used for chemical splashes in the eye or on the skin. Simon
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#3 Posted : 08 June 2009 18:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil Rose Google did it for me!
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#4 Posted : 08 June 2009 19:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ger Slyne Simon, I have the SDS but there are no details of the ingredients used in the substance. Why do the makers not list these? This is what makes me wary Regards Ger
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#5 Posted : 08 June 2009 19:46:00(UTC)
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#6 Posted : 09 June 2009 10:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Coshh Assessor Kays Medical distribute this in the UK, if you give them a call they can send you a CD with lots of information or arrange a sales presentation.
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#7 Posted : 09 June 2009 15:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By IanS We've had a sales demonstration of this stuff that was based on neutralising 1M acid and alkali ie pretty dilute. pH was very well controlled but the sales guy was completely flummoxed when asked about the same experiment using Concentrated acids and alkalis. My opinion is that this stuff may be good as after treatment (all the papers cited give that opinion weight) but I'm not convinced it's for immediate first aid. Questions about first aiders applying "medicines" to burns being against all current first aid at work training could also be apposite! I would be most intersted in other's views on this product.
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#8 Posted : 09 June 2009 15:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ger Slyne Thank you Ian for your reply. I have also recieved information from First aiders and medics who are not convinced with this substance and some papers are saying that it is not correct to treat a chemical burn with another chemical. The SDS does not show the ingredients and I can not get this information from anyone. For this reason I am slow to recomend it to my manager. I have been told also that there is no subsitiute for copious flushing with water for first aid treatment of a chemical burn. Ger
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#9 Posted : 09 June 2009 16:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Coshh Assessor Use as "after treatment" goes against the training for this product where the recommendation is that it's best used immediately and is actually less effective if water has been applied first. In my opinion it is worth considering if you have corrosives - the point is that it neutralises them.
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#10 Posted : 09 June 2009 18:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Packham Try contacting Anne Finck on 07879 44 71 96 Anne is employed by PREVOR, the manufacturer of Diphoterine. She will provide you with the information you need, also case histories, etc. I attended one of the PREVOR seminars last December. The evidence that I was able to collect seemed to me to confirm that this is a product that can be used for emergency treatment for chemical burns. However, as always, each of us has to reach his or her own conclusions. Chris
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