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Posted By Lorenzo
Good morning everyone,
can anyone explain or give any clarification on the difference (if there is any difference) between near miss and dangerous occurrence?
Is the DO some kind of serious near miss?. In RIDDOR it is not clearly defined..
thanks
Larry
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Posted By SteveD-M
Lorenzo
I don't think in the grand scale of things there is much difference. It really depends on the assessment of risk on the possible outcome..
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Posted By Eliza Flutterby Good morning Lorenzo, A Dangerous Occurrence is a "near miss" that would have led to a major injury or death if it had affected a person. Have a look at this link, it tells you the DO's that are reportable: http://www.hse.gov.uk/riddor/guidance.htmHope this helps! Eliza :-)
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Posted By Stuff4blokes
Larry, RIDDOR reporting of dangerous occurrences is for significant failures of H&S management and as previously said these are laid down and defined in the regs. HSE may investigate.
A near miss in my opinion is something that happens that, but for luck, could have resulted in injury/harm eg a pedestrian and FLT nearly colliding. No injury, no damage but next time could be a fatality. Treated as a learning experience and a trigger for implementing improvements it is a very powerful tool for operational management.
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Posted By Andy Brazier
RIDDOR specifies events that are considered as Dangerous Occurrences and have to be reported. I think the reference to Near Miss is a bit misleading because I think most people would consider the events listed as being serious in their own right even if no one had been injured (e.g. # plant or equipment coming into contact with overhead power lines, electrical short circuit or overload causing fire or explosion etc.)
In your own company you should expect to have many near misses reported, and only a very small number would need to be reported under RIDDOR. You should also have many more near misses than accidents.
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Posted By Tom Doyle
Hi Larry,
The international standard for machinery risk assessment does not recognize either as being significantly different.
BS EN ISO 14121-1:2007 Safety of machinery — Risk assessment — Part 1: Principles
Clause 4.2 c)
"NOTE An incident that has occurred and resulted in harm can be referred to as an “accident”, whereas an incident that has occurred and that did not result in harm can be referred to as a “near miss” or “dangerous
occurrence”."
IMO the fact that an event(s) occurred is far more important than what the event is called provided that it triggers some action to prevent a re occurrence which could have a different outcome.
I hope this helps.
Cheers
Tom Doyle
Industrial Safety Integration
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Posted By Ron Hunter
Dangerous Occurences are defined and prescribed within the meaning if RIDDOR.
Any other "non-harm" incident (outwith the RIDDOR D.O. Schedule) can be described as a near-miss.
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