Posted By Dave Wilson Kepoppycock!! Users of MEWPS have to be 'Trained' by a 'competent' person so that they are 'competent'to operate the equipment See http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/cis58.pdf the industry recognised way is by using an IPAF or PAL trainer, however there is no legal requirement to do so.

Posted By Tony McIntosh No, i'm aware of all this. Our appointed electricians recently had to hire a scissor lift and I was chatting to the driver who mentioned that drivers now need a license that is recognised throughout europe .....or maybe has talking a load of poppycock. He did mention this was a 2009 requirement

Posted By Tony McIntosh thanks Alan. Sounds like another FLT licence / certificate debate as someone said earlier. Although it does use the word 'license' on the IPAF card that is issued!! strange one anyway, it's too hot for semantics

Posted By Dave Merchant I've argued many times that people should stop saying "licence" on a training document unless it's for driving a car, but they still do. "Licences" are granted to permit someone to perform an act that is controlled by an enforcement body, be that criminal law, contract, etc. - without one, you cannot do it. There may or may not be any need to prove competence, training, etc. - a fishing licence is legally required but carrying one doesn't mean you're any good at catching the things! "Certificates" prove someone attended a course and passed (the term "certificate of attendance" is another pet peeve of mine!), and they *MAY* be assumed to be competent because of that fact, but the paperwork does not in any way _guarantee_ competence, nor is the certificate required by the enforcement body - you can gain "competence to drive" from loads of places, but only the DSA issues the "licence".