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Posted By Phizzle
Howdo.
Could I bend the ear of someone with an environmental cap on?
A redundant site has a bulk store of oil which we need to remove and take to another site some 10 miles away.
The 'proposed' plan is to pump this into IBC's, and then transport by road on flat beds or in vans.
Besides the obvious emergency protocols that spring to mind (i.e. sufficient bunding, measures for controlling spillage etc.) is there any legal aspect we need to consider?
Worst case scenario, the transporting vehicle is involved in an RTA and we spill 1000 litres of oil on the road! Although not flammable, not very environmentally friendly!
Personally, i'm not sure if I'm comfortable with this but don't know which legislation / guidance to look at. If any enviro experts could give me some advice.....
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Posted By Pez Hargreaves
Is this Heating oil or oil used for engines i.e. lubricating oil?
This may make a difference especially in the transportation of the product.
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Posted By Safety officer
Wouldn't you need a waste carriers license?
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Posted By Safety officer
Sorry just re-read your post you don't actually say if its waste oil or just oil being transported.
I'm sure it would come under ADR if its not waste so you would need to take precautions under that.
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Posted By Bob Shillabeer
The quickest and easiest method based upon your obvios lack of knowledge (if not why ask the question) is to use the services of a competent contractor to do the move for you.
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Posted By Kenneth Patrick
Bob,
You will need to be careful with this level of honest replies( see also COSHH storage) or you will give the wrong answer when a good friend asks if her b.. looks big in this!
Ken
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Posted By Phizzle
Hiya,
It's lubricating oil, and therefore not classed as flammable or dangerous (as such doesn't come under ADR).
Due to the quantities involved, it may not be viable to employ someone else to move it for us (it would be cheaper to treat it as waste and get rid of it).
The problem is that it isn't 'waste' and we want to reuse at another depot.
Thanks for pointing out my obvious 'lack of knoweldge' even thought I made that clear in the original posting.
Any green heads know of any environmental, or other, legislation that prevents us from moving oil in IBC's in these quantities?
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Posted By 99|Cadok|99
I am not aware of any environmental legislation directed at transport unless of course the oil is being treated as waste which you have stated it is not.
I believe that the transporting of this lubricating oil in IBC’s is fine. I would advise though, that you put in place suitable emergency arrangements in the unlikely event there is a spill i.e. absorbent materials, shovel, drain cover mats plastic bags (for contaminated absorbent materials) etc. This equipment should be carried on the vehicle and I would give the driver written instructions on what is expected of him/her should a spill occur.
Advice for the driver would be if without risk to self contain the spill using materials provided stop the product from entering drains and other water courses call emergency services. On this occasion the MSDS would be a good source of advice.
I hope this is of some help with your issue.
Iain T
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Posted By Pez Hargreaves
spot on
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Posted By SteveD-M
Not quite...
The Ground Water Pollution regulations have an impact on roadside incidents along with the current environmental liability regulations.
Just gives the justification for the controls set out above..
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Posted By Phizzle
Sorry Steve can you expand?
Are you saying we are o.k. (within legislation)as long as we follow the precuations listed above.
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Posted By SteveD-M
Phizz
Just to say that there are Legal implications under Environmental Legislation which are absolute. You have been given some advice on spill precautions...If you get any heat on why you are doing it. It is the environmental legislation and you pay for all the impacts of any potential spill.
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Posted By Phizzle
That's cleared that up then.....
Cheers
Ian
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