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#1 Posted : 02 July 2009 15:21:00(UTC)
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#2 Posted : 02 July 2009 15:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Eastbourne Nope, not patronising. Seems quite good actually.
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#3 Posted : 02 July 2009 15:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By paulw71 Between the Royal Festival Hall and Waterloo Bridge on London's South Bank there are now 95 safety signs, it is claimed, while a double-decker bus displays 24 separate cautions. Do you not consider this overzealous
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#4 Posted : 02 July 2009 15:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By martinw I imagine that they did not get there by accident. Therefore someone responsible for such duties is either grossly overestimating the number of signs required to comply with legislation, deliberately or by misinterpretation, or are just making sure that they are covering their own backs as it were. Isn't it always the way? Sensible and relatively realistic legislation is set up and half-trained functionaries are left to interpret these regulations and then have to justify their actions to equally untrained superiors? Cut them all down and replan from scratch. Would only need a few to replace the discarded ones.
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#5 Posted : 02 July 2009 16:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Cartwright The signs might be ugly and patronising, but the problem is that to many people try it on, i.e. nobody warned me that the ground was uneven. I agree with other posts that local authorities are just covering themselves.
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#6 Posted : 02 July 2009 16:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brian Hagyard Agree with those that state people try it on. There was a report in the local papers around Leeds a few months ago about claims being made by motorists that had accidents outside the "new" grammar school. If I remember rightly there were a number of rear end shunts when motorists came across traffic ques caused by car's trying to get into the school. Eventually the authority put up a sign "beware potential for stationary vehicles" or similar. People who had their accidents before the sign was in place are now suing! There was a report on the BBC web site about local authorities putting up signs about the danger of tunneling into sand dunes after a tragic accident/fatality the other year. This was on the recommendation of the coroner. Try and prevent something happening and Health and Safety is over the top - an accident occurs and people are screaming where was health and safety.
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#7 Posted : 02 July 2009 16:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By peter gotch There are moves in the opposite direction. Ashford Ring Road is the UK’s first large-scale ‘Shared Space’ project. An idea that originated in Holland, ‘Shared Space’ makes all road users equal and reduces conventional restrictions like signs, lines and barriers. The aim of the project was to transform the four lane, one-way Ring Road which surrounded and confined the town centre of Ashford, Kent. The scheme was completed in November 2008 and despite initial concern from some residents, the transformed roads have already seen a reduction in traffic volume and speed. The scheme is already attracting plenty of attention from other UK cities and towns interested in adopting ‘Shared Space’, including Oxford, Blackpool and Colchester. Regards, Peter
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#8 Posted : 02 July 2009 20:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete48 And there are many other smaller initiatives. Locally to me, the white lines in the centre of some sections of country lanes have purposely not been repainted after resurfacing. The result has been a statistically significant reduction in accidents on those stretches. I always find the use of fixed signage somewhat pointless for any reason other than being able to say "you were warned". That is, they don't change behaviour they just give others a means to punish after the event. It is only when in unfamiliar territory that we look for guidance from fixed signs and behave in accordance. Then we need simple, clear information that is not compromised by too much info or too many different signs. On the other hand, how many of us instinctively brake when that flashing 30 mph sign is triggered on entry to that village. Not just the first time you see the flashing sign but every time you haven't quite slowed down enough?
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#9 Posted : 03 July 2009 13:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp Some interesting observations regarding signage. I have often thought that in our industry there are too many signs. The brain can only soak in a certain amount and eventually they become wallpaper. Only the other day our stores foremen asked me about getting some more signage, including large signs with PPE requirements, hazard signs and other site signs all on one notice board. I said I am not a lover of these signs as they contain far too much information and some of it is not necessary. I guess a similar concept applies to road signs as well. All I need to know is where the damned speed camera is!
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#10 Posted : 03 July 2009 17:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Cartwright If you were driving within the speed limits you would not need to worry about where the speed camera are. Same can be said for most other things. If people did what they were supposed to do and took responsibility for their actions, no need for most of the signage.
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