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Posted By Diane Thomason
Hi all,
Does anyone here have experience of discontinuing the use of oxyacetylene in their organisation, and using other processes instead?
I'm aware of the issues of hazards/control measures etc. surrounding oxyacetylene, oxypropane, arc welding and so on. I just wondered if any of you had been involved in a decision to stop using acetylene. What was the rationale and what was the effect on the organisation's work? Conversely, has anyone decided that acetylene is essential for certain processes?
Thanks in advance for any tales you can tell.
Diane
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Posted By Bob Youel
There are other substances [Propane & similar] that do a very similar job that are initially *cheaper but for real quality and speed 'A' was seen as best in many areas [*The accountants only looked at very base costs!]
You can go away completely to different technologies e.g. Plasma cutting [P will not warm up for bending etc]
I advise that you undertake a complete job task analysis combined with a proper cost benefit analysis to allow am informed decision to be made
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Posted By Kevin Drew
Diane,
We use a lot of oxy-petrol cutting which is allegedly safer but that isn't specifically why we use it. Generally speaking it's horses for courses, whether it be oxy-acetylene, oxy-petrol, plasma arc or even powder cutting, they all have different uses depending on the materials or the circumstances in which you are cutting. To my knowledge, there is no one method suits all.
Kevin
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Posted By Diane Thomason
Thanks for both responses chaps. I was looking for some info on people's experiences prior to a more detailed discussion in our organisation.
Can I ask you another thing - leaving the costs aside, are there many applications where propane can't do the job and acetylene definitely can? Also - Kevin, how does petrol compare? We have no "unusual" materials to be cut or welded as far as I know.
cheers
Diane
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Posted By tdunbar
Diane
Are you trying to remove or reduce the acetylene risk?
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Posted By Alexander Falconer
Hi Diane
Been some time since we last spoke, however if you email me on my contact details I may be able to help you!
Alex
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Posted By Flic
I believe that the higher flame temperature of the oxygen/acetylene mixture is needed to weld steel. Unfortunately I don't have the definitive data easily to hand.
Flic
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Posted By tdunbar
Thats what I was advised when investigating a substitute Flic.
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Posted By Bob Youel
A is quicker and leaves a cleaner cut etc in like for like cases than Propane
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Posted By Diane Thomason
Thanks for all the responses, Diane
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Posted By Kevin Drew
Diane,
Oxy-petrol or Petrogen is great for cutting laminates or steel backed with concrete both of which are very difficult with oxy-acetylene. The flame is apparently much more compact with oxy-petrol. Additionally, you only need to carry around 5 litres of petrol compared with relatively large bottles of acetylene with all their inherent problems. We've used it extensively for the size reduction of steelwork prior to demolition. The Petrogen website is as good a place as any to start if you're interested. No good for welding though.
Kevin
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Posted By John Donaldson
Hi Diane
If you still have access to Hasnet have you tried an enquiry on there?
I know a number of Universities were looking at the use of acetylene and its replacement for some applications.
Also how to deal with acetylene where its use could not be discontinued such as GLC’s
Apologies if you are not the Diane I remember from my Uni days
John
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