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Posted By Chris121
Hi all I have query I would apprichiate your advice/comments on please.
A client of mine operates a transport firm. They occupy a large yard which is fully enclosed, and on occasion a need arises to manouvere a vehilce within the yard.
My concern is that this task is not always done by a HGV licecnsed person, and in the event of a incident they could be vulnerbale to prosecution.
I raised this with the client and they were happy to provide some internal training to the yardsmen to undertake this particulr task and tp also have a comprehensive safe system of work.
Bearing in mind that they are not operating on a public highway do you think this is enough?
Thanks
Chris
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Posted By Rob35
I have had the same situation on a number of sites. No public access so we arrange for 'Shunter Training' through an outside provider so was certificated rather than just in house.
I also have a site that has public access (Roadway and Footpath) and these have to have the relevant class of licence to move vehicles around the yard.
Hope this helps
Rob35
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Posted By SNS
One of the best artic movers I have seen can only operate inside the yard as he can't get an HGV licence - tried the test a few times. He has been 'shunter' trained as above which covers the operation.
Rgds,
S
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Posted By Steve Clark
Chris, whilst the ideal is for a road licensed driver to operate shunters, the guidance (para 98 of the old and para 626 of the new HSG136) states quite clearly that it is not mandatory but that training should be of equal or better standard than that required for road operators. We have interpreted this to mean that the training we provide to off road shunters should exceed that provided within the training currently 'required' for road drivers. Hence for a non LGV driver who will operate an LGV size/weight vehicle off road, we provide a 4 day course which actually involves a longer period of practical reversing, cornering and tight space maneouvering training than an LGV driver gets - my experience is that trained [licensed] experienced shunters are better drivers when they are on the road and can easily park trailers with ease and with less damage whilst road drivers can struggle - and yes i drove HGV/LGV for years before losing my mind and going into H&S ...
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