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#1 Posted : 20 August 2009 14:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Seamus O Sullivan Hi everyone Apparently there is equipment that can be used by a translator, which i am looking into so to deliver a course with learners of different languagues Does anyone have experience (good or bad) of this type of translating equipment in whisper mode being used? I understand it requires headfones, but is not exactly simultaneously translation, which requires a sound booth and 2 translators I understand that in this instance there is no need for a sound booth. The number of translators required might still need to be 2. As I will be the trainer I would be intrested in hearing your opinions on this method. Did anyone ever see it in action? Thanks Seamus
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#2 Posted : 20 August 2009 19:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil Rose Seamus - I haven't come across any equipment, such as that you have identified (other than on Star Trek of course) but we use a translation service called INTRAN which provides excellent services at a reasonable cost, you might want to give them a try to see what they can do to help.
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#3 Posted : 20 August 2009 22:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Seamus O Sullivan Hi Phil Thanks for the reply. My problem is that I have 2 french people, with poor english who need to do a safe pass course, ( required for construction work in Ireland). The local rules state that I need a minimum number of 8 people to take part in the course before i can run it.. In this case I need 8 french people, to take part. It is not possible to get 8 french people to do this course... The project is a short one, they need the course next week at the very latest, otherwise they must go home to france, or to some other european project, There is no one qualified in ireland to operate the equipment, and the whole job will have to stop. It was mentioned to me that this translation equipment could be used, it would allow me to mix english speakers with the two french people. It seems to be the only way I can certify these two people. It is of course still possible that they could fail the test. In case anyone asks no I can not allow them sit quietly in the corner of an english course. They need to be aware, and take part in various exercises etc, and of course there is a test to do at the end of the course.. Because I will be the trainer my main intrest is in what possible problems could be encountered with this set up. I never saw this equipment in action. I did speak to the firm who I use for interperting, and they have informed me for this task I need two special type interperters. the usual interperters will not be able to do this work. They gave me the reasons and that is ok. Apparently it is a highly skilled process. It is also very expensive. They do seem to be aware of this equipment but it would be nice to get views of other trainers before I get involved. Cheers Seamus
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#4 Posted : 21 August 2009 12:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andrew Beveridge Hi Seamus, Not sure if a live translation could help? This is a service we use as and when; no other link, just happy customer. http://www.dialaninterpreter.co.uk/ They are based in Norwich, UK. Good luck! Regards Andy
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#5 Posted : 21 August 2009 12:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By D. Hilton Give them translated documents and let them sit the test it is virtually impossible to fail.The remainder of the training, video etc is for the most part directed at general construction workers coming into contact with electrical overhead power lines, excavation risks and impact from site vehicles. A very mind numbing experience to say the least. In all probability the personnel in question would not be in position until a number of weeks after the days training. Surely, this would have been looked into prior to them coming to site?
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#6 Posted : 21 August 2009 12:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By D. Hilton That should have said that "They would not be in physical possession of the card until a number of weeks after the test"
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#7 Posted : 21 August 2009 14:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Seamus O Sullivan Thanks guys for the replies. This should of course have been looked into before the job started, however like lots of safety stuff, it is the last minute they are told things. I am totally independent from all parties, but i would have expected all this to have been dealt with when the task was priced/planned. I would only allow them on the course if it complies fully with the requirements, if they have little english i wont allow them on an english course. I am well aware of others who would. I am looking into the possibility of suggesting they get an english card, would that be treated the same as a safe pass card? You are right they will be finished before they get the card, confirmation of passing the course is acceptable. Naturally I can only confirm when they have passed it.
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#8 Posted : 21 August 2009 14:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kevin Kelly Seamus, If they are only here for a short duration would they not be exempted under the residency rule? Kevin
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#9 Posted : 21 August 2009 15:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Seamus O Sullivan They are allowed work max 20 days, but they will be there a little over this time, apparently the 20 days is getting near.
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#10 Posted : 21 August 2009 16:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kevin Kelly fair enough, it can be a very fustrating experience when working with lads form outside the country in those circumstances. You would really have to wonder how beneficial it really is when you consider that anyone over for a few weeks like that as in my experience they are usually highly supervised anyway due to the nature of the work. Best of luck anyway.
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#11 Posted : 25 August 2009 22:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Seamus O Sullivan Just an update, I am doing course this Saturday, got sound engineer organized with equipment etc. Hope it all goes ok.
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#12 Posted : 02 September 2009 08:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Seamus O Sullivan Just a final feed back on my orignal query, it worked out well, The headfones did require a change of batteries after 7 hours. otherwise it was ok.
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