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#1 Posted : 27 August 2009 15:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andrew Robertson-Böber Okay, I can't quite see this as pure H&S but more a food standards issues. However, if you are running a commercial site what would tbe implications be of having an event which sells food that has not be prepared by a licensed company (i.e. home-cooked, home-baked &c.) to members of the public. B CMIOSH
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#2 Posted : 28 August 2009 11:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim Tassell (2) Andrew Who is going to cook and supply what? If it's just home baking (like the dear WI) with low risk foodstuffs then it's basic food hygiene. If it involves the likes of a barbecue then your into a different game in ensuring good cooking as well as storage of uncooked products etc. Guess what - it's back to risk assessment! There's some useful guidance on the Food Standards Agency web site at: http://www.eatwell.gov.u...odsafe/partiesandevents/ and a useful Q&A "ask Sam" linked from there. I'd start your research there. Jim
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#3 Posted : 28 August 2009 13:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Swis same rules apply regardless of where the food is cooked.. You need to ensure that all the HACCP prinicpals are adhered to... Basic food safety training to all the food handlers.. Adequate storage facilities etc etc P.S. If this is only a one day thing, then training mey not be so important..
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#4 Posted : 28 August 2009 13:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bill Elliott Andrew - a good starting point would be to contact your insurer to establish whether such an event is covered and if so what measures will need to be in place from their point of view. Food preparation and cooking is a funny old subject because everybody does it and seem to have a claim to some level of expertise. On a professional basis the rules that apply would certainly be different to a "one off" event that it appears you are anticipating. Whereas the same principles would apply, going to the extent of running a full HACCP process is a bit over the top. HACCP in itself is not something just anyone can do, it requires food safety knowledge and an understanding of the processes, pitfalls and likely areas of concern. This is a professional role for someone who is competent to undertake it.
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#5 Posted : 28 August 2009 16:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Swis Andrew - There's a difference between HACCP process and adherence to HACCP priniciples. Adherence to HACCP priniciple means analysing any hazards and putting reasonable controles (critical control points) in place. This would be same as carrying out a H&S risk assessment for an event. You simply can't get aways by say that 'it's only a one off'..
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#6 Posted : 01 September 2009 15:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andrew Robertson-Böber What are peoples take on this food being provided within a 'church hall' type of event?
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#7 Posted : 08 September 2009 14:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steph Hi Andrew The best advice is on the Food Standards Agency and also HSE. There are different 'rules' for charity stands (eg WRVS at a local market) versus commercial companies. Regards, Stephanie
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#8 Posted : 10 September 2009 13:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By andrew morris Guess this may be a little late for you, but I have only just noticed the thread. I would suggest talking to your local Env Health office - they will advise you on the law and their local policy of dealing with such "traders" - they will also probably have SFBB packs, which will cut alot of paperwork out for you, as you just fill in the blanks...
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