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#1 Posted : 28 August 2009 12:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By William O'Donnell I am looking to pick the brains of the experts out there. We have the situation where our services will be carried out across many varied premises. These may be owned or leased by us, or shared with other Employers. Often the premises may be occupied only by our staff but these will be from a variety of different Departments/Services. Staff may be sited there permanently, or in and out during the day. To add to the mix, they may not be there every day, holding specific clinics on specific days. The staff are spread over a large geographical area in over 50 buildings. The problem is in identifying who is in charge with regards to H&S? Individual Managers may or may not take responsibility for their own staff, but there is no one in overall control. There will often be no designated Fire Marshals or premises first aid personnel, and when asked to co-ordinate such arrangements everyone's response is "that's not our responsibility". Can any one out there point me in the right direction towards any relevant Statutory Requirements/Guidance or how others have addressed this problem. Thank you
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#2 Posted : 28 August 2009 12:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jon Dawson09 William It's a huge question, but basically as an employer 'you' have a duty to provide H & S at all premises where your employees work, and risk assess under MHSWR. Therefore I suggest a policy level risk assessment of each area of operation, co-ordinated from 'head office' by a Director, and then each premises manager must deliver it at each location. How can you say some managers are not responsible for their staff? All employees have duties under HASWA, and this would include providing first aid, welfare etc at a local level, which has been defined by 'the employer'. It sounds as if 'the employer' is leaving him/herself wide open here. Your RAs should also include third parties where you shae premises with them. Start with HASWA sects 2 and 3, and MHSWR Reg 3, and you won't go far wrong. Best of luck... Jon
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#3 Posted : 28 August 2009 13:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter You need the buy-in and commitment of the Board (Directors/Trustees, whatever)and a clarification of Policy to ensure that there is a "designated occupier" for all you significant premises. These "designated occupiers" (for want of a better term - maybe "person in charge of premises" if you like) need not spend all of their time in the building/campus, indeed they need not necessarily be based there at all. Nevertheless, these people (and where necessary their Deputes) and their (unshirkable)duties must be clearly identified- in your Policy! Most often, there is a split between a Senior Manager with the H&S responsibility and a Facilities Manager having premises- related maintenance responsibility (asbestos, legionella, etc) sometimes with overlap to ensure local monitoring actions are actually conducted.
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#4 Posted : 28 August 2009 13:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bill Elliott William - I share Jons view. This is a start at the top and work down scenario. your organisations policy should set out responsibilities and this may include the requirement for premises managers whose role would be to coordinate all the H&S related activities to enable your organisation to comply with its legal duties. This should include responsibility for the locations fire requirements eg fire warden, first aid cover and the coordination role where the premises are shared with other organisations. Like you, my organisation is spread out county wide with over 250 premises, owned, leased, shared and we have been through exactly the scenario I have described above following an intense HSE inspection resulting in an Improvement Notice and a list of recommendations as long as your arm.
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