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#1 Posted : 01 September 2009 11:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Fennel WE have an employee who suffers with a bad back and has been off long term sick. They have now returned to work and requesting special chairs and adaptions to equipment within the workplace that is used without issue by other employees and is perfectly suitable. The employee is not registered as disabled, so I did not think that we were obliged to provide anything other than as a gesture of goodwill within reason. Am I wrong?
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#2 Posted : 01 September 2009 11:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter J As the condition may well constitute a disability, the Disability Discrimination Act requires you to make reasonable adjustments to accommodate the affected employee. Paul
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#3 Posted : 01 September 2009 11:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter F. Don't they have to be registered as disabled for the DDA to apply?
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#4 Posted : 01 September 2009 11:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andrew Kurdziel In response to P F's comment No, you do not have to be registered disabled to be classified as disabled under the DDA. Registered disabled usually refers to those people who have certain entitlements under social security, blue badge scheme etc. As far as the DDA goes the only criteria that apply are that they have ”a physical or mental impairment which has a substantial and long-term adverse effect on his ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities.” That’s it, whether they are registered disabled or not is irrelevant. See “Guidance on matters to be taken into account in determining questions relating to the definition of disability” on http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/
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#5 Posted : 01 September 2009 11:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter F. Thanks Andrew, that clears that up and will help me in the future.
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#6 Posted : 01 September 2009 12:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil Rose I think that you would be entirely wrong if you thought that any actions that you took were 'goodwill', I would have said that you owe them a number of statutory obligations. There are a number of other things you could and should be doing such as: 1. Assessment of the work to determine if this is causative of or contributing to the back injury 2. Contact with GP 3. Assessment by an OH practitioner However, I think that one course of action that you should definitely be taking is to have a look into an Access to Work application/assessment for the employee. This is something that the employee normally has to do themselves and for which they do not have to be registered disabled
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#7 Posted : 01 September 2009 12:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuff4blokes Besides the DDA issues (losing at a tribunal is very expensive, winning just costs a lot), if the condition is work-related then failing to correct the original cause is negligent. If the condition will be exacerbated by work then this too should be addressed as a failure here is also likely to be negligent. The results could be an even longer-term sick employee with all that entails.
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#8 Posted : 01 September 2009 12:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lilian McCartney the 'extra duty of care' requirement will apply in this case. That doesn't mean they automatically get what they ask for but you should do a Personal Risk assessment for them. Access to Work can help towards the cost of any equipment required - conditions apply. Lilian
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#9 Posted : 01 September 2009 13:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan J Fennel As you risk the prospect of being cited in the relatively enlgihted media as a ghastly horror story about 'elf and safety', why not turn the situation to your advantage by reviewing all instances of reported disability, mental or physical, on the part of any employee. In addition to Access to Work, who are often reasonably generous in their support of people with disabilities, you may find that the Equalities Commission may be informative and helpful; at the same time, barristers employed by the Commission profess to being absolutedly ruthless towards safety practitioners who fail in their statutory responsibilities to people with disabilities. This is not hearsay: a barrister in the predecessor commission warned very bluntly those who attended a meeting of London Met branch of IOSH to update their personal liability insurance.
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#10 Posted : 01 September 2009 21:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil Rose Kieran - can I ask exactly who were advised to 'update' (not quite sure what that means) their PLI and why?
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#11 Posted : 02 September 2009 08:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By William O'Donnell Just to put a spanner in the works. We have a member of staff who works at a host employers premises, and this employer provides all the DSE equipment that our staff member uses. Following a complaint the host employer carried out a workstation assessment and concluded that our employee needed a special chair as the one they had did not provide sufficient support. The first that we became aware of this is when they sent us the bill for the very expensive replacement chair. So my question is, if our assessment agrees with theirs, who is responsible for the replacement?
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#12 Posted : 02 September 2009 09:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuff4blokes William, unless you have specified this within the contract between the two companies the answer will be the decided by commercial necessity. Whilst most DSE "use" is done using a seat and it is reasonable to expect that the seat and DSE equipment would be provided in a package, the commercial reality of your relationship may dictate whether you or the host company stump up for the new expensive chair.
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#13 Posted : 02 September 2009 09:43:00(UTC)
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#14 Posted : 02 September 2009 11:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan Phil The speaker as, I think, making a rhetorical point based on examples she gave where, reportedly, safety professionals had been content to apply a 'general' risk assessment to justify layoff of people with disabilities, without examining particular details. (If you really need the reference and let me know your email, I'll trace it during the coming weekend). Settlements are more cut and dried where an employer has simply failed to carry out a competent and thorough individual risk assessment in the case of a person with disability. In practice, in the UK and Ireland, the adversarial nature of hearings about claims incline insurers to settle where a diligent OSH professional may actually be able to withstand careful scrutiny. Yet lawyers can also be in the position where they conscientiously use the process of evidence gathering to negotiate an optimal settlement for their clients.
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