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#1 Posted : 04 September 2009 16:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By leerob Could someone please advise, i am wanting to carry out a site specific risk assessment for domestic electrical installations. Would i be best covering every hazard encountered in the one assessment ie. Electricity Noise Vibration Asbestos Working at height Slips, trips and falls Respirable dust Young persons Manual handling Tennants and visitors Use of hand tools All comments welcome Cheers Leerob
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#2 Posted : 04 September 2009 16:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark H Yes, as a task specific assessment i.e. domestic electrical installations.
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#3 Posted : 07 September 2009 15:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By leerob Thanks Mark ,Only been in job 5 weeks, a little unsure .Its different putting all that college work into practice. lol. leerob
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#4 Posted : 08 September 2009 15:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By rosstoward Fire, step ladders, hop ups(wouldn't go generic working at height), loft work (confined spaces. are they using chasing machines or kango?? Therefore HAVS??.... Get in touch if you need any other info, i just done SIP for rewire around a swimming pool so its fresh in me head........... Ross
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#5 Posted : 08 September 2009 16:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete Longworth Might be useful to add domestic pets to that list as well Lee. Other than that you seem to have covered most things. There may be some bio-hazards depending on the premises. For instance, if you are renovating premises that have been used as squats etc you might need to consider hidden needles etc with the risk of HIV or hepatitis. Depending on the age of the premises there is a possibility of coming across horsehair plaster with its attendant risk of anthrax. With re-wiring jobs there will be an amount of re-plastering so you will have COSHH issues to consider. Can't think of anything else. Good luck
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#6 Posted : 08 September 2009 16:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Faye If you are working in tenants homes, you may also wish to consider violence and aggression against your contractors. Hope this helps Faye
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#7 Posted : 08 September 2009 18:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Crim Leerob are you electrically competent? I ask because if not perhaps you should not be doing the risk assessemnt. Your list is quite long - would this be better split into separate assessments. Don't forget the isolation procedure! The previous post mentions violence by the tenant - what about violence toward the tenant?
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#8 Posted : 09 September 2009 10:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Swailes leerob I have had some experience in void properties, cleaning and removing waste, if your property is void and as been for some time you should check for flea or mite infestations and vermin rats and mice.
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#9 Posted : 09 September 2009 10:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Barrie (Badger) Etter Lee I go with Crim. Break down your list so woking at height and all associated work (and ladder exchange), for example. Likewise, residents and violence / needles stick injury plus biohazards. Don't forget to check the HSE's site on risk assmts I've on the odd occasion found something that I might have overlooked. Badger
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#10 Posted : 09 September 2009 10:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dec39 To carry out A site specific Risk assesment, you will need to visit site, consult with persons carrying out the work and other relevant persons, identify hazards and then carry our risk assesments, from the above it sounds like you are carrying out a desktop exercise which may not be suitable and sufficient
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#11 Posted : 09 September 2009 10:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis I am going with the idea of making this a task assessment for domestic work. But I am going to say that whatever you put in are only standard items and the assessment will have to be made specific by the operative on arrival. The key to this is a properly structured form and operative training. A good form leads operatives through the assessment task step by step and only demands a reasonable degree of training. Standard control measures can be annotated and the levels of risk after first assessment with standard controls in place will determine if further assessment is required. It will also provide a prioritisation of the risks. Any more and I will be doing the job for you!!:-) Bob
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#12 Posted : 09 September 2009 12:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alex W Falconer Leerob Having worked in similar situation as yourself (domestic gas central heating industry), there is nothing wrong with doing a desktop risk assessment, and making this document a generic one taking into consideration all the hazards the employee may come across. Once this has been completed you can cross reference to specific risk assessments that are required under their own regulations, ie Manual Handling, Coshh, etc Now we come to the key point, as each property differs from one another, ie location of services (main supplies, junction boxes, etc), tenants (old, young, pets, etc) your surveyors should be Site/Task Risk Assessing the property when deciding the nature of the works requiring to be done. This info is additional to the general & specific hazards already identified by the generic risk assessment, and needs not be elaborate (ie a tickbox check risk assessment) Using an example from previous role would be, based on the nature of the job was to install new gas central heating systems. The generic would identify one key issue as being the old central heating system hot water tank being removed, obviously this would be a manual handling issue, therefore cross referenced over to the manual handling assessment, generally these tanks were all of similar sizes and weights. What the site RA would then identify additional hazards posed by the location of these (always differed from property to property), some located up high, some floor standing, some in cupboards, some in loft spaces etc Apologies for being long winded, but I am sure you will get my drift. At least the main concept is to save repeating the same RA's over and over, once the key Generic & Specific RA's are in place, then the only work that is required is the site RA's completed by surveyors or supervisors or managers (or whatever) and that these are passed to the installation teams prior to commencing the job. Hope this helps Alex
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