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Posted By safetyamateur
Biscuit Injury Threat Evaluation?
Nice piece of marketing Mr Fox.
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Posted By seanie
crumbs!!!
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Posted By Peter Zunda
Looks as though I'll have to give up custard creams!
No mention of the 'SAS of biscuits' the HobNob...
I'll contemplate this over a Wagon Wheel, mmm, jam or cream ?
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Posted By Margia
I had a email from the British Biscuit Advisory Board which got through our spam filter at work (well it would,wouldn't it.
I'm hoping I can use this to ban those horrible pink wafer things from the biscuit plate at meetings.
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Posted By seanie
i hope fig rolls are not included!!
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Posted By Peter F.
I have just completed a risk assessment and it has been decided that gloves will be worn whilst dunking the biscuit, if employees do not want to wear gloves then lukewarm tea will be provided.
We have also decided that we will have ice cold water in all areas next to the eye wash for people to put fingers in if they do burn themselves.
We have put a full ban on custard creams.
Have we missed anything, worrying times ahead. Wonder what next years European H&S week will be on, I hope they don't discount 'biscuit dunking'.
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Posted By seanie
peter, you are opening a can of worms (garibaldi's) here, what type of gloves are you going to be wearing?
will the flavour of the biscuit's be affected?
what happens if a splash of tea contaminates the gloves?
are the gloves disposable?
how many times can they be used?
if not disposable, how often will they be cleaned?
etc... etc... etc...
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Posted By Peter F.
We have decided on disposable, the reason for this as they can be worn on either hand so can be you only need one as you only dunk with one hand.
They can be used for the duration of the dunking period and then washed like the hand. We are allowing them to be used for one day only. So that should be two days from each pair.
Garibaldi's are exempt from this as they are not known as a 'dunking' biscuit, too many currents in your tea, etc, you only require gloves for those biscuits that fit in the cup on the first attempt no biting the edges to make them fit. All gloves must have the correct dunking heat resistant BS EN 132.
We have already had one complaint as he wore his decorators glove and has claimed that we are negligent as we did not tell him that the fluff would come off onto his chocolate biscuit. We'll have to see were the claims goes. You also do not require gloves if you dunk a YOYO for obvious reasons.
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Posted By seanie
what are the obvious reasons for not wearing gloves with YO YOs??
i have total sympathy with your decorator, and i am sure that the courts will be in his flavour? (sorry, couldn't resist)
i am a bit worried over washing the gloves as they might not have dried out completely before their next use, have you got a system where an emergency pair of gloves can be issued?
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Posted By Margia
I'm surprised they've discounted the risk of biting your own finger when trying to nibble round the cows on a Malted Milk.
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Posted By Peter Zunda
Big biscuit if it's got cows on it Margia!
I must raise issue with the provision of only one glove, this does not allow for the obvious hazard from splashes whilst dunking!
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Posted By seanie
thank you Peter Zunda, for backing me up!
its a serious issue that should be addressed as a matter of urgency
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Posted By Peter F.
Yo Yo's go up and down, I thought it was Lincoln's that you nibbled around each layer. Anyway I am going on to the yard now to buy some caramel cookies from the tuck shop.
Biting fingers 'Volenti non fit injure'
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Posted By Phil Rose
I have already started work on a risk matrix for biscuits - sounds like a good excuse to ban public authorities from having free 'biccies' for meetings etc. Now is a wagon wheel a biscuit or a cake for VAT purposes (remember the M&S tea cake case?)
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Posted By John Packer
Thank heavens the Jaffas are relativley low risk. I'm a '20-a-day' man!
Used to eat 'biscuits-brown' but ended up in rehab!
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Posted By safetyamateur
Phil, I'd rather we didn't bring cakes into the equation as that'll point up the manual handling issues and then we get into knives and such. Before we know it we've got a 'Pastry and Confectionery' risk assessment as long as your arm.
No. We do a biscuit-centric assessment which will them feed into an overarching assessment of the universe and everything in it.
Are we agreed that the biscuit one is 'Universal Part 1 Item(a)'?
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Posted By seanie
i really think that all this cake talk is masking the "gloves" issue.
splashing
washing
replacing
etc..
serious responses please
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Posted By JohnMackie
Whats next? a campaign against Binge biscuiting? relieved the Jaffa is safe though. Surprised there is no mention of a Tunnocks Caramel Wafer. These have been known to cause a skirmish or two.
cheers
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Posted By Kevin Drum
I believe a Jaffa is a cake not a biscuit so not affected.
Rule of thumb for biscuit/cake category - if it goes soft when past its best its a biscuit, if it goes hard its a cake. So by defination a Jaffa is a cake!!
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Posted By D H
Will 5 jaffas count as my "5 per day"?
Dave
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Posted By GaryC40
Ginger Snaps can be rather hazardous
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Posted By Peter F.
Gloves can be washed like hands, the tea once splashed cools very quickly so would not be a problem.
If so concerned a SSOW could be written,
SSOW Dunking Biscuits.
Ensure that the cup of tea/coffee is on a stable surface i.e. table or desk.
Open box of biscuits and and place contents on a clean dry surface.
Put clean glove on the dunking hand and ensure it has a snug fit.
Two pick up biscuit and if you are concerned with the possibility of splashes onto the unprotected hand place this hand behind back or well away from the cup.
Dunk biscuit and quickly put in mouth, unless a hob nob then time can be taken.
Swear out load calling the biscuit every name under the sun as it has fell into your tea/coffee.
Dunk another biscuit and ensure you take the above safety measures.
Brink tea forgetting about the bits at the bottom.
Wash cup and glove and await someone making you a new cup.
If required work between cups of tea.
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Posted By seanie
you never mentioned doing any work before?
will i need a RA for that as well?
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Posted By MCK
The researcher - a Mr Duncan ;-)
I for one shall be extra carefull the next time that i am Duncan my buscuit.
Imagine if someone was eating a custard cream whilst working at height- the mind boggles.
Hierarchy of controls.
No1 - Do you really need to have a custard cream?
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Posted By John Packer
No2. Can the Custard Cream be replaced with a Bourbon?
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Posted By seanie
how dare you suggest that custard creams are not essential?
Britain wouldn't be the power that it is today, if it wasn't for the humble custard cream, and all the other brands of biscuit's that support the empire, ( not including cheap supermarket cheapo's)
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Posted By Peter Zunda
Even more alarming, how dare you suggest a custard cream can be replaced, let alone by a bourbon of all things!
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Posted By John Packer
No 3. Ok, I think we have consensus that the custard cream is irreplaceable. Can you reduce exposure by only just lifting the lid off of the biscuit tin and popping your hand in quickly to extract 1 and then putting the lid back on quick?
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Posted By Peter Zunda
OK John, glad you've agreed the custard cream is worth the risk!
As to your next point, have you considered the risk of getting the wrong biscuit where there may be mulitple occupancy thereby needing multiple dips and exponetially increasing the chance of injury and possible fatigue factors!
Also, being a mere male, multitasking is not my speciality, so controlling a lid whilst making a "snatch and grab" may not be feasible!
Now where's mi brew ...
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Posted By John Packer
You store different biscuits in the same container? are they compatible? Isn't there a risk of confectionary reaction?
Different biscuits should be stored in individual containers, clearly marked and kept apart! Ideally in different buildings!
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Posted By Peter Zunda
Under the Biscuit Industry Terms of Supply, known as 'BITS' for short, multiple occupancy is common in supply and storage - probably another factor to consider!
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Posted By Phil Rose
NAAFI custard creams were supreme - alas I don't know if it exists anymore
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Posted By seanc
As i do not work on Friday's (in college) i thought i would resurrect the biscuit debate, Thursday is now the new Friday.
Has anybody given consideration to the simple wafer?
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Posted By ColinPink
Very dissapointed that i can't get hold of a decent traing course or DVD for the staff. Really looking forward to the little warning labels on the packets.
I wonder if anyone has reviewed the RIDDOR data for a work/bisciut related injury. Somebody must get paid to taste test these dangerous little blighters
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Posted By grim72
I feel like I am in a life threatening situation, I have been known on occasion to use a finger of twix as a straw to suck up my coffee. I had never considered the dangers of such extreme activities until now.
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Posted By A Olsen
I'm prepared to extend the same offer I've made to our concerned employees. Please send all 'dangerous' biscuits to me for 'safe' disposal. (Only biscuits still in their unopened wrappers and not past their sell by date will be accepted)
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Posted By Faye
Well i'm shocked that not one of you has picked up on the subject of stress related dunking!
I know of one particular character who would go sulking and crying when his biscuit collapsed mid-dunk. And if it went down his shirt - even worse tantrum!
Dont ever get too close to someone who gets stressed by dunking! There is only ever one pacification - more biscuits hence stress levels increase (along with waisteline) :)
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Posted By grim72
I read an early discussion about PPE vending machines. I wonder if there is an opportunity to make these H&S vending machines suitable for foods such as biscuits, possibly even sweets and crisps?
On a more serious note, has anyone considered the ergonomic implications of opening a wrapped biscuit? This procedure could be made even more dangerous if the use of protective gloves are introduced as per previous recommendations.
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