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#1 Posted : 21 September 2009 15:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By GavinR Hi guys, having a small interpretation issue under PSSR. I have 2 conflicting pieces of guidance regarding pressure regulators and flash back arrestors and their application under PSSR and requirement for WSoE. The ACOP states in Appendix 1 diagram WSoE only applies where Pressure system is steam or has pressure x product of 250bl or more. So i understand that to mean also that any protective device on a pressure system below 250 bl will not be required to have WSoE. However a HSE document i was reading regarding regulators states if the the regulator acts as a protective device in a stationary system then it does need to included in a WSoE. Think i been reading to many sources of information and starting to get confused. Can anyone help me out with this? If it does not need to be included in WSoE then does its supply just need to be replaced every 5 years? cheers
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#2 Posted : 21 September 2009 16:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Tanczos What kind of pressure system are you talking about? Flashback arrestors are usually provided for by DSEAR or PUWER not PSSR. The Hazard is from the flammability/explosiveness of the gas, not the pressurisation of the vessel/system.
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#3 Posted : 21 September 2009 16:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Daniel Hi Gavin: The Pressure systems regs have a long and sorry history. In their original form there were many in industry who had grave concerns about them. The Motor Industry was particularly concerned and I represented them at meetings with the CBI. As part of one exercise I personally counted 120+ pressure regulators on one in-line transfer machine at Longbridge and at the time we had over 100 machines of this type alone across Rover, along with 25 miles of air mains at Longbridge, all outside the old Factories Act inspection requirements. The normal standard at the time was to put a regulator, safety valve and filter on each connection point. Given that the HSE at the time could produce no evidence of any failures of compressed air systems, we were very concerned with the potential cost and benefit (or lack of). The Written Scheme is not cast in stone and the eventual idea was that only those regulators and safety valves which actually stopped the system bursting should be included. In practice, this is typically the ones at the air receiver or compressor. This excluded all the ones provided on machinery or just for control purposes. Does this help? Dave
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#4 Posted : 21 September 2009 16:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Daniel PS - I think you'll find that the 250 Bar-litres exemption applies to the largest pressure vessel in the system. If you have a system with no pressure vessels, or lots of little tiny ones 250bl (e.g - a system with a screw compressor, often found in SME's without a pressure tank) then Statutory Examination is not necessary, BUT if the contents is steam then from recollection the 250 bar-litres thing doesn't apply and the system falls into inspection requirements anyway.
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#5 Posted : 21 September 2009 16:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By GavinR Thanks dave, what we have is a number of vessels supplying: 1) Hydrogen 2) Acetylene (packs fitted to fixed pipework) 3) oxygen 4) nitrogen All these gases are supplied to welding processes and furnace via fixed pipwork. What i'm trying to determine is the requirement for these proetective devices to be included on WSoE or do we simply need to follow guidance stating the yoy replace all regulators and flash back arrestors every 5 years. I'm reading conflicting guidance on this i believe. cheers
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#6 Posted : 21 September 2009 17:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Tanczos WSoE covers all protective devices, pressure vessels and pipelines/parts of pipework and these parts of the system shall be identified in the scheme. Flashback Arrestors are definitely protective devices. The regulators on the other hand may or may not be depending on circumstances. You might find this useful in making that decision. http://www.hse.gov.uk/fo...ernalops/hid/din/558.pdf There's also the British Compressed Gases Association Approved Codes of Practice CP6 & CP7. Use of Acetylene at pressure greater than 9psi or 0.62Bar must have HSE Exemption certificate No2 issued by the HSE Explosives Inspectorate
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