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#1 Posted : 28 September 2009 10:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jason McQueen Hi, I've been instructed by my boss this morning that the company wants to attain 18001 accreditation ASAP. Can anyone point me in the direction of useful resources or guides anyone could send me etc whilst I evaluate whats required. Any help is appreciated.
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#2 Posted : 28 September 2009 10:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ronofcam Hi Jason, My advice to you is to employ a consultant. You don’t state in your post, but if you don’t have experience with any other standard (ISO 9001 & 14001) then setting it up from scratch is difficult, no matter how competent you are at health & safety. You have to remember that most of it is procedural, and (in my experience) paper driven. It could be that your company has procedures in place already to deal with H&S matters, but to collate them all into the right format will take up lots of time. It is much easier (though costlier) to let someone come in and do an initial appraisal of your system with a view to assisting you in the implementation of the standard. I say all this from the perspective of having gone through the process myself. Our company has accreditation to all 3 standards, and we have an integrated management system. I would have been lost, though, without specialist help. Also, you’ll find that an independent consultant will be very familiar with the accreditation body’s requirements, and know what they’re looking for, thereby removing a lot of unnecessary work on your part. If you’ve any specific questions on the process then post on here and I’ll do what I can to assist. Iain
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#3 Posted : 28 September 2009 15:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jason McQueen Thanks Iain. I've got a 3rd party calling me back tomorrow. The company that my boss has said he'd like to use is QMS (www.qmsuk.com). They claim that they can implement a system in 45 days witout the use of a consultant. It'll be interesting to see how they do this. Is there any recommended reading for this so I can prearm myself?
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#4 Posted : 28 September 2009 15:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By cmw Hello Jason, Having managed an OHSAS 18001 system for a few years I would advise to keep it simple. If you comply with HSG65 then you will have much in place already. Take each clause in the BS and work out what you need from what you have to comply. I do it on an excel spreadsheet. The guidance on what to do for each clause is in 18002. Be careful with your specification for consultants if you use them. I inherited a system with hundreds of documents including process maps in it (put in by a consultant) and it was a nightmare to keep up to date. You do not need process maps but one or two in key areas can be very handy to clarify in your own mind. Email me and I can send you the list of clauses in a spreadsheet. Clare
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#5 Posted : 28 September 2009 18:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By FAH Hi Jason Just point out to your boss that QMS are, by definition, providing a consultancy service in their own right. You don't identify the type or size of business; but a promise to apparently implement a full 18001 system in 45 days is rather ambitious for anything but a comparitively small organisation. Just ensure that what whichever organisation gets the contract they design & provide a system that is tailor-made for you & not an off-the-shelf Generic with tweaks. Good Luck Frank Hallett
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#6 Posted : 28 September 2009 19:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuart Nagle Jason the new 18001: 2007 is much easier to do than the previous version. You should get hold of a copy of 18001 2007 and it's sister publication 18002, which gives information on how to implement it. Drop me a mail...!! Stuart
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#7 Posted : 28 September 2009 20:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jodie Read Jason, Before appointing QMS to assist, you should be certain that you understand the reasons for going for assessment. If one of those reasons includes customer requirement for UKAS accredited systems then you may want to look for alternative consultants and for a separate Certification Body that can provide that UKAS accredited certification. Having helped other companies to implement BS OHSAS18001, please feel free to contact me for further information. Regards, Jodie
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#8 Posted : 28 September 2009 21:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis jason Drop me a line as I think your proposed consultants may be offering you a service that might not truly assist. Will contact you personally off my own computor tommorrow Bob
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#9 Posted : 29 September 2009 11:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Waldram Suggest you read the free IOSH Guide 'Systems in Focus' which covers HSMS generally and mentions issues which may arise from a senior manager who just wants a piece of paper without worrying too much about the real benefits of a systematic approach. Downloadable from 'information centre' to the left.
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#10 Posted : 30 September 2009 16:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tony Tomkins Hi Jason Would definitely agree with the purchasing of 18002 advice, and get yourself on a specific 18001 Lead Auditor's Course; but a brief overview can be found here: http://www.healthandsafe...ownloads_Pages/OHSAS.htm Good luck! Tony
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