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#1 Posted : 28 September 2009 10:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phizzle Morning, We have a large warehouse operation, and management have decided to have a full stocktake this weekend. This will involve office staff working alongside warehouse personnel counting stock. This poses many hazards, but one important one is the use of ladders. Approx 50% of stock location require the use of a small step ladder / footstool / podiumn steps to gain access to stock that is between 6 and 10 foot high. Obviously all warehouse staff have sufficient W@H training, but office staff have not. Do I: * Issue guidance on ladder safety to all staff and get signed acceptance? (a formal tool box talk / training may not be possible due to number of staff involved and time frame) Would this be sufficient or should I: * Prohibit office staff from using ladders? (I could 'pair' office staff up with trained warehouse staff, however this could be problematic - logistics, uneven no. of staff etc.) I suppose my main question is "What level of training / information is necessary for use of step ladders?" Looking forward to your opinions. Ian
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#2 Posted : 28 September 2009 10:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tabs Good luck with this one ... as many opinions as Safety people :-) For me, a toolbox talk and some simple supervision would be a starting point. For every different piece of equipment I would review what the hazards are - thinking about steps for example I can think of various things which will apply to one set, but not another. Wooden ladders v aluminium ladders too. Be sensible and don't be scared of selecting the right person for the right equipment (I remember being 5'2", 8 stone when wet, and being asked to carry a double run wooden ladder the length of a few football pitches - sheer luck I didn't injure myself and everyone I swiped past). Some people should never climb a ladder (the ones who lean).
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#3 Posted : 28 September 2009 11:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Packer What will they be counting and will they have to handle/move anything during the count? It will have an impact on the training and equipment.
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#4 Posted : 28 September 2009 11:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By McQ Ian A toolbox talk and a demonstration would be good on the erecting and safe use of the equipment provided. Ensure that personnell are wearing appropriate footwear and that personnell aren't scared of heights. This would be covered during the Risk Assessment. Ensure that management are aware that there will be a need for a demonstration, tool box talks etc and that certain individuals may not be up to the task. It may mean that the stock take has to take place over 2 weekends if required. Do not allow Management to pressurise any one into getting the task done until you are sure that all safety aspects are covered. The HSE have a free document on the safe use of ladders and step ladders that can offer guidance. I Have spoken to a HS inspector who informed me that he attended a fatality where some one fell backwards off the bottom rung of a ladder and hit his head! Hope this is of some help.
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#5 Posted : 28 September 2009 15:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phizzle John, Won't be counting anything heavy, just bolts, hand tools, small plastic pipes etc.
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#6 Posted : 28 September 2009 15:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Packer Do we work together?
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#7 Posted : 29 September 2009 04:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By GT Phizzle, As this forum is open to all, safety personnel and others if you can explain what your role here is, then in general people will be willing to assist? What do you think is necessary to ensure people can work more safely. Is stepping up and stepping down the main risk? Do you need a risk assessment? GT
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#8 Posted : 29 September 2009 07:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gerry Marr Hi Phizzle, Have look at your emails, I have sent you across a load of materials that shall hopefully help you. Regards Gerry
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#9 Posted : 29 September 2009 09:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phizzle Hi John, No we don't I'm afraid - I'm not that lucky! I work for a small 'competitor', not disimilar to your company. We may have met in my previous life with a large Swedish truck manufacturer however.... GT, Don't think it matters, but I am the Safety Manager. I agree that office staff shouldn't use ladders unless trained to do so. Due to the time restraints, and numbers of staff involved, tool box talks / formal training may not be possible in time for the stock take. As a result, I may have to prohbit ladder use. I don't think a "ladder safety" hand-out would suffice but was trying to gauge opinion on this, and what constitutes "adequate training & instruction" with regards to stepladders. BR Ian
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#10 Posted : 29 September 2009 09:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phizzle cheers for the info Garry
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#11 Posted : 29 September 2009 17:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By gvellam in our depot we lower the pallet by forklift if high to count as we have found in previous stock counts, employees tend to hurry to get the count completed and are not always paying attention to going up or coming down.
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