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#1 Posted : 29 September 2009 11:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By AJM Hi, I dont know if there are any specialists on the specific subject of Welding with Zinc covered soft metals but i wondered if anyone is aware of any specific hazard, health or otherwise in welding on Zinc covered soft metals, other than the obvious geral hazards associated with welding. Thanks in Advance Alan
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#2 Posted : 29 September 2009 11:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter Alan What are the soft metals to which you refer? Zinc coatings can give rise to metal fume fever if the fume is not controlled adequately. Paul
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#3 Posted : 29 September 2009 11:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Flic As Paul states, zinc fume can give rise to zinc fume fever. The other problem is that if you have really good fume extraction and the material you are welding is relatively thin (e.g. ducting material) the fume can contain so much unreacted zinc powder that it is pyrophoric. I would be interested to know what the metals underyling the zinc are. Flic
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#4 Posted : 29 September 2009 12:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Packer Is it possible to ask the suppliers to supply the parts unplated? I know I've been asked for unplated parts in a previous role for exactly this reason.
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#5 Posted : 29 September 2009 16:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By AJM Thank you very much for your prompt responses and the answer to your question is the Zinc coating is on Mild Steel. Does that makes a difference to the possible hazardous effects? Alan
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#6 Posted : 29 September 2009 16:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Packer Is it a fitting or stock? If its a fitting you should be able to get it supplied unplated.
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#7 Posted : 29 September 2009 18:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter Alan No, mild steel is usually a problem although, of course, you will need to control the fume. Zinc fume should be your main concern. Paul
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#8 Posted : 29 September 2009 19:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By AJM Cheers John, Paul Just to give better understanding its repair welding to lots of cage type baskets that store and tranpost milk.
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#9 Posted : 29 September 2009 19:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter Sorry, Alan I have just read my last response and realised I missed out 'not' as in mild steel is not usually a problem. Paul
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#10 Posted : 30 September 2009 08:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Flic AJM Thanks for clarifying what the underlying metal was. I would not have described steel as a soft metal, which is why the curiosity! As Paul states, the mild steel fume does need control; it is not difficult to do this adequately and it is not normally a problem. However, the need to control the zinc fume is the key feature. The baskets are likely to have a relatively high ratio of zinc to steel - similar to galvanised sheet. I would therefore collect some of the fume from the extraction system and test to see whether it burns, and whether, when made damp (not wet) it smoulders over a period of hours. Either of these signs should lead you to take further measures to remove the fume at extremely regular intervals and render it safe. I once visited a factory that was welding galvanised sheet that had suffered 10 fires in 12 months. My investigations identified that the zinc fume was the cause. Flic
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#11 Posted : 01 October 2009 18:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By AJM Thank you very much for your helpful and positive feedback. Alan
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