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#1 Posted : 07 October 2009 10:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Canned heat Can anybody help at all? We are working for a housing association and the work involves working in tenants kitchen doing plastering. The problem is operatives are exposed to a fall from height by working off milk crates and small fold away benches. The kitchen is too small to put anything in like a tower and other similar devices, and it is more difficult as the tenant is still living there while the work is carried out. they ideally need something around 300mm high with guardrails. I have advised the operatives manager to stop the operatives from using the crates but he advises they will not be able to do the job. The risk assessment has highlighted falls from height doing this work. I know there was a post about this a few years ago but there was not much response. What do other people do in a similar situation? Any help most welcomed
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#2 Posted : 07 October 2009 10:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By toby liberson Working from crates is a complete no no as they are not design for this kind of loading. Hop ups such as: http://www.laddersalesdi...work-platform-p-511.html provide a secure working platform.
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#3 Posted : 07 October 2009 10:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Canned heat thanks Toby i totally agree about the crates and pointed it out to the respective manager to take action. my only concern is with a hop up such as the example link you provided, there is no type of fall prevention such as rails. is this acceptable to use? they will be using this for alot of their working day and will not have a hand free?
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#4 Posted : 07 October 2009 11:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel get together and have an ideas brain storm [include your staff!]and you should come up with something then post your solution on this site so as we can all learn! Remember there is no law against making your own kit, just ensure that it is suitable and sufficient and involve your insurers!
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#5 Posted : 07 October 2009 11:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Canned heat Bob, Thanks for the post. I agree that would be a great idea. unfortunately, some of the managers we have here are of the 'here we go again with elfandsafety' mentality. They would be quite happy to use the milk crate unless i advised otherwise. I will take your point on-board though.
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#6 Posted : 07 October 2009 11:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp Small podium steps might be the answer. They are suitable for low level work.
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#7 Posted : 07 October 2009 12:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Barry x Do your plasterers not use stilts? You could always use bean bags with scaffold boards/ sheets cut to size!!
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#8 Posted : 07 October 2009 13:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Canned heat Barry, Thanks for the post. our plasterers do not use stilts. This has been decided after looking at our risk assessment and speaking to a manager when discussing the crate situation.As our plasterers are working in a tenants kitchen there maybe an increased chance of slipping on any tools/materials in the kitchen.
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#9 Posted : 07 October 2009 13:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By al wood there is a propriety system made by youngman check out their website for further details. p.s. i dont work for them by the way, just passing on information.
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#10 Posted : 07 October 2009 13:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tabs Is it pratical to instal a false floor for a day? Make it modular enough and it can be moved from job to job - sell the idea to the boss on the basis that it will actually speed the job up, because more than one person can work at a time, and it is quicker than moving creates and planks every 10 minutes.
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#11 Posted : 07 October 2009 15:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andrew Shaw Hi, I posted a query about working at height a couple of weeks ago. It was regarding the lack of hand rails on many of these mobile scaffolds and work platforms. I've just looked at the Youngmans website as suggested by Al Wood above and note that a couple of their lower level work platforms don't have handrails. There's a nice picture of a guys painting a wall purple - see link http://www.youngmangroup...latforms/en-131-prodeck/ How can this be squared with the risk of stepping of the back of the platform. I can't imagine being able to write a risk assessment that would say that this was acceptable - am I missing something? I'm battling site operatives and indeed, site supervisors to insist on hand rails all round the work platform. Any Comments.....
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