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#1 Posted : 07 October 2009 23:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By andy.c. Advise please My 6 year old son has attended the same school for 2 years and has now just started his third year, it is a special school for children with social communication difficulties. My issue is that in the first 2 years my son was injured 16 times by another child (all recorded)eventually after meetings with the school the child concerned recieved 1 to 1 support and the issue appeared resolved for the last 3 months of the last school year. unfortunately today my son has returned from school with the third accident form in 4 weeks, all being non accidental injuries, after the first i was fobbed of with the reassurance that the situation would be monitored. I will be speaking with the head tomorrow morning, but do not hold out much hope, my son is in the best school for his academic progress but they do not seem to be able to keep him safe (19 injuries, and that's only the ones that have left a mark and been reported) who can i approach to resolve this, Any advise please, sorry this is not strictly workplace H&S regards Andy
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#2 Posted : 08 October 2009 05:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Messy Shaw Andy Sorry but I cannot offer direct advice, but my son suffers from a mild form of autism and had a few issues during his schooling - many involved bullying, but none involved assaults such as you describe. Obviously the key is a responsive and helpful school management. However since the introduction of various league tables, many heads seem to have lost sight of the needs of the child and seem to focus more on achieving the highest possible position on the tables. One thought did cross my mind is that there are numerous excellent support networks and charities out there that can offer impatial advice of such matters. Google may be the best tool to find what you may need. We found the Nation Autistic Society were a very useful source for us, as were Afasic (which deal with those with communication difficulties). Their website has contact details and a discussion forum. http://www.afasic.org.uk/ I wish you all the best as I am aware of the stress involved when living through these sort of problems. Good luck
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#3 Posted : 08 October 2009 07:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel speak to the LA's internal occupational H&S team
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#4 Posted : 08 October 2009 08:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By AHS Heartfelt sympathies speak to a good lawyer its ironic that this post appears after I was lambasted about supervision being inadequate in some schools.
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#5 Posted : 08 October 2009 08:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan Andy Perhaps you might find it possible to be accompanied by a friend with relevant experience (e.g. as a school governor or other role in which he/she has frequently visited schools) as your observer and with whom you might consult privately in the course of your meeting with the head? As the arranged meeting with the headteacher progresses, if you are not satisfied inform him/her that you will be asking both the chair of the governors and the LA H/S team to conduct an assessment of how well or otherwise risks to your son are being managed. As the head reports to the board of governors, they have a statutory responsibility to respond to your concerns. From another angle, the LA H/S staff also have a statutory responsibility. While it's naturally an extremely distressing situation, listen with as much objectivity as you can to any clues to whether your son may be contributing to the problem. Really, it can not be too strongly stated how important it is that he is not labelled as having a 'troublesome' dad and possibly a 'problem personality' at the root of social communication difficulties.
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#6 Posted : 08 October 2009 08:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Haynes Try talking to the Head of Governors - that may galvanise the school head into doing something.. If that doesn't work - talk to the Council member with responsibility for school;s
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#7 Posted : 08 October 2009 09:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By ijmartin Andy My nephew, who has learning difficulties, faced a similar problem where he was being bullied by another child at the school. This child was also being aggresive towards other children and teachers but the school did not inform the family of this. Unfortunately as the school did not take adequate action in time my nephew ended up being seriously assaulted by this child. My point to you would be to find out if the child who is attacking your son has attacked any other pupils. The school may be reluctant to provide this information but as long as they do not name them there should be no problem in providing this detail. If this is the case then the closer supervision should be in place on the aggresor rather than on your son. Just a thought from personal experience.
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#8 Posted : 08 October 2009 09:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve IOM Andy Sounds desperate for you. You did'nt say age of child! As I see it you have two choices: (1) see solicitor and inform school that it is failing to keep your child reasonably safe from harm, and write to them; (2) move to a safer school; Document the injuries, photographs, trip to doctors etc. Document the visits to school, keep copies of letter and e-mails. Any promises the school makes, write to confirm the meeting/promises etc. When one of my own sons was having a hard time the school itself had policies and kind words but in the end did not do enough. Things got so bad I went up one day, went to see the Head teacher and got my kid and walked out, next day I had him in another school and never looked back. Because the kids involved were bang on the age of when criminal charges could be brought, I went to see the parents and said any more and I'll go to the Police and give statements and it stopped. Ironic, but about 5 years later, my son was a big strapping lad and bumped into the little sh** that had caused him most of the problems and he sorted his deamons out himself. Best wishes, it's one of the harder things to get through as a parent.
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#9 Posted : 08 October 2009 09:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve IOM Sorry Andy (I've just seen that your son is 6) Good luck anyway
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#10 Posted : 08 October 2009 12:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Andy Unfortunately there is more going on here that you do not know about and as a sceptic I think you may find the governers closing ranks around the Head. My best solution is to talk to your local MP asap. The fact that they managed to resolve matters and then had a problem as soon as they stopped almost means that they really do not know what to do and are hoping it will go away. One area as yet unexplored has been the HSE use of Section 3. The education of youngsters is after all the business of a school and it must meet section 3. This is where many of the supervision prosecutions have arisen and perhaps there is a need to have an anonymous discussion with the local area office. The problem here is that low level assaults can rapidly and suddenly escal;ate without warning. One should also not forget the role of OFSTED Inspectors in all of this either. Quite frankly this head does not seem to realise the risks he is exposing the school to in not taking effective action. Bob
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#11 Posted : 08 October 2009 14:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter Contrary to Bob Youel above, I would not expect the LA's Occupational Health and Safety Team to be involved in issues of that nature. If you cannot get satisfaction at local level, escalate to the Head of Education or Chief Executive - this may prompt a further investigation. There are of course various avenues for complaint, including HMI schools.
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#12 Posted : 08 October 2009 15:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sally It is not necessarily inaction on the part of the Head Teacher or the school/ authority not wanting to do anything. We have this type of provision within our local area and have children who even with 1 to 1 or sometimes 2 to 1 supervision can manage to injure themselves, staff and other children. Measures can be taken to reduce incidents but with many children with Additional Support Needs serious enough to be in special school the only way to guarantee they can't injure themselves and others would be to shut them in a padded room on their own - obviously not an acceptable solution. You should be looking for the Head to tell you what measure they are putting place to protect your child but there can be no promises due to the nature of the school - it is very different from a mainstream provision.
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#13 Posted : 09 October 2009 16:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By andy.c. Sally I understand that there can be no guarantees, the children attending this school have differing issues and the environment is far more challenging for the staff to supervise, however i was looking for advise on who to approach, to hold the school accountable and to ensure the best efforts are being made to protect my son. After 30+ accident forms, 19 showing non accidental injuries, 2 visits to hospital, and a 6 year old scared to attend school, surely the heads response to monitor the situation is inadequate, especially after the previous provisions seems to have been removed. All Thanks for all the advise, a full meeting with the school has been arranged for Monday and at least i have an idea now of further avenue's should i feel the issue is not being treated with the seriousness it deserves. Have a good weekend Regards Andy
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#14 Posted : 09 October 2009 16:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Blenkharn Contact Ofsted or the CQC, whichever if most appropriate for the particular establishment. The regulator is there to ensure the highest standards. Where necessary specific additional inspections or investigations can be made as part of a case investigation, with recommendations for improvement and a rigorous follow-up to make sure that whatever is required actually happens. In extremis, they can put an establishment under special measures and/or close it down if there are serious deficiencies and the welfare or well-being of individuals is at risk. They are the experts, and will act upon your documented concerns. Ask the Head for details of the appropriate regulator - they are obliged to give you full details - and take it from there.
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#15 Posted : 09 October 2009 18:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jack I agree with Bob Youel; the LA H&S Team could possibly help (although I am aware many would think it outside their remit). Of course this assumes it is a LA school (and most special schools are). I have been involved with both schools and social services establishments where incident reports have identified the same individual being involved in another persons injuries (both to employees and non employees) and have worked with the establishments (usually by involving other specialists because dealing with child behavioural issues is not one of my specialisms). In a few such incidents the HSE have have also been involved, so this could perhaps be another line you could pursue (although in my experience whether they get involved in incidents of this type does seem to depend on the attitude of the particular Principal Inspector).
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