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#1 Posted : 15 October 2009 16:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Carrell I was just wondering if any other COMAH sites have it in their on-site plans to contact all emergency services in the event of an on-site emergency. This includes situations with no or very little potential to affect off-site. The reasons for doing this would be to forewarn the services in case the situation escalates; e.g. a gas leak which seems to be under control but may ignite at any time OR incident with no casualties but due to ongoing nature have ambulance service around just in case. Just looking for opinions and guidance please.
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#2 Posted : 16 October 2009 13:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kate Graham Yes, our definition of off-site incident includes incidents that have not had off-site effects yet but that could develop in this way.
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#3 Posted : 16 October 2009 13:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kate Graham I think I misread your question! I can't see an ambulance hanging around just in case of casualties.
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#4 Posted : 19 October 2009 10:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Carrell Thanks Kate, that's pretty much how I see it too (for all the emergency services). It's just a discussion we're having whilst reviewing our on-site procedure - consensus is that considering we're in a retained emergency services area and the speed at which an incident could escalate we should at least inform all services that something is going on if they feel the need to prepare themselves. Its a tough one.
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#5 Posted : 19 October 2009 10:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andy Brazier The main question for you is at what stage you notify the emergency services. Most COMAH sites will define a number of levels of incident, based on the resources required to deal with them. For example, Level 1 = only the local department Level 2 = on site emergency team Level 3 = emergency services required to deal with on site incident Level 4 = all of the above plus plan for off-site is activated. You can certainly call emergency services without initiating an off-site plan. But you will need to check with the emergency services if they understand this. For example, you should be able to summon an ambulance because someone has had a heart attack without involving the fire brigade, but you may find if you say you have a fire the brigade will send a predefined number of tenders and call for ambulances to standby. Arguably the biggest challenge for you will be making sure your staff know the different levels of incident and are able to evaluate incidents correctly. In particular, they need to be considering the potential consequences and not just what has happened so far.
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#6 Posted : 19 October 2009 17:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Goalie We are very fortunate and have a very good local partnership system with all of the other COMAH sites in our area (plus the police / fire / hospital teams). So, it's fairly clearly defined for us when we would / wouldn't call in external assistance. Basically, if there is a real risk of an off-site impact, then yes, we would contact external resources to prepare them. If it's just a 'maybe', then we wouldn't. Our 'COMAH' scenarios have all been pre-risk assessed. If anything were to happen outwith of a predefined scenario, we have a team of on-call personnel who have been trained to make a decision based on the actual event. It might be worth reviewing your emergency reponse plans and for the potentially 'higher risk' ones, ask the local emergency services if they would like to be contacted if the event were to happen. We've got to the place where they are asking us to take new recruits around, so they can physically show them the issues (and obvioulsy it benefits us if the emergency teams are familiar with our site). I would certainly recommend this if your site management allows it! Hope this helps !
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