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#1 Posted : 20 October 2009 08:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Just when we have been complaining over the Mis-use of H&S as an excuse for all things don't you thing this article posted on our own home page does just that.

Apparently hand recognition and Iris scanners for security are now Safety Devices in the view of IOSH!!! No wonder the press is sloppy when IOSH can be just as lax.

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#2 Posted : 20 October 2009 09:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Flic
Robert, I suspect that this is a news release that has not been selected by IOSH. Some of the News feeds are 'selected' by a news organisations and fed through to IOSH.

Occasionally something that we would not have selected gets through. I guess it is something to do with the key words that are highlighted in the article.

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#3 Posted : 20 October 2009 09:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan
Robert

An alternative perspective is that the instruments chosen represent economic and ergonomic forms of applying the common sense of safety and health.

Yet another perspective on your choice of target is that zealotes are apt to lose sight of the border between passion and paranoia and behave sadly pompously and a little foolishly.
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#4 Posted : 20 October 2009 09:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Merchant
The byline shows it's not IOSH: Copyright © Press Association 2009


The word "safety" was in the strap because it's in the quote from John Armitt. I can see the logic - these devices are part of the AT security system to protect the park during the construction phase, so they do in effect help keep the staff and structures "safe" from attack. It's the same as saying the police provide a "public safety role".
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#5 Posted : 20 October 2009 13:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Kieran

Me ! A zealot ! I do hope so:-)

The question is if this is not truly about H&S - why did we run it. Yes the line between Public Safety and OHS can be readily blurred BUT it is our own interest that we keep the two separated as it is all to easy to confuse the public into blaming one aspect for the failures of the other.

Yes I do recognise it was an external feed but the question then is why it was used when the link to OHS was so tenuous.

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#6 Posted : 20 October 2009 16:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Merchant
The articles aren't selected by humans, it's a keyword feed syndicated from PA. That article used "safety" in the title, so it was sent.

We get loads of "irrelevant" stories that way, but it saves someone sitting there reading them 24/7.
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#7 Posted : 20 October 2009 17:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By ScotsAM
Risk: From known terrorists and criminals.

Control: Biometric scanning etc.

Aren't these devices put in place in the interests of public safety following a risk assessment?

A little of topic as the thread is regarding whether or not these are safety devices in eyes of IOSH.
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