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frankhone  
#1 Posted : 10 November 2009 12:29:24(UTC)
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frankhone

Sorry i have posted this elsewhere butcant find it now
I am of the Opinion that IOSH Managing safely is Based on 24 hour Tutor to delegates personal contact
But have just come across the following advertisement on line.

XXXX XXX are proud to introduce IOSH Managing Safely e-learning - our brand new and unique web-based training course leading to the award of the IOSH Managing Safely Certificate. Through the Workplace Law Direct Study Centre you can study when you like, where you like from just £386.10 + VAT!

Are IOSH Now saying that this training can be done By E learning without personel contact between student and tutor of 24 hrs as recomended to trainers.
Opinions please
Regards
Frank

frankhone  
#2 Posted : 10 November 2009 12:30:36(UTC)
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frankhone

yes where is spell-checker
UVSAR  
#3 Posted : 10 November 2009 13:35:15(UTC)
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UVSAR

Everyone's doing it - even BSI offer IMS as an online course with no "personal contact". I assume IOSH don't care if the tutor is giving personal contact (or for that matter is even human), provided the course lasts about 24 hours and covers the bullet points.


I can't see any problem with doing IMS online though - it's not a course which requires interactive debates between students and tutors to teach, and the content is trivial to deliver online as if you go sit in a classroom, you get the same slides and the same narration, just with a less comfy chair.
frankhone  
#4 Posted : 11 November 2009 07:40:51(UTC)
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frankhone

If that is the case the assessment at the end might as well be open book for all as i,m sure that if i were doing an assessment with no controls in place i would just open my books when the answers were not obvious and it meant to be a closed book assessment.
frankhone  
#5 Posted : 11 November 2009 07:41:44(UTC)
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frankhone

please give us a spell / grammer checker
Alan Haynes  
#6 Posted : 11 November 2009 08:17:45(UTC)
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Alan Haynes


. "please give us a spell / grammer checker"

You could download the Google Toolbar - it includes a spell checker facility [and it noticed 'grammer' when i used it here]
frankhone  
#7 Posted : 11 November 2009 08:21:30(UTC)
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frankhone

Thanks I will try that No joy only get what I am given no permit to change tool bars here
UVSAR  
#8 Posted : 11 November 2009 09:11:26(UTC)
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UVSAR

Very true, and of course people will look up the answers - they're connected to the Web!

Is that a problem? I don't think so, at least in terms of IMS. Who cares if you actually remember every fact you saw in the slides - surely the point of the course is to teach people how and where to go to look for information, and how to process it? We're not teaching them to drive, just a new way of thinking about safety and how to manage it. They'll have their books and browser to hand when they're doing that work in future, so IMO it's far more realistic to let them use the same things in an exam, just like kids have the Web to help them with homework.

frankhone wrote:
If that is the case the assessment at the end might as well be open book for all as i,m sure that if i were doing an assessment with no controls in place i would just open my books when the answers were not obvious and it meant to be a closed book assessment.

frankhone  
#9 Posted : 11 November 2009 14:40:47(UTC)
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frankhone

I agree entirley its just that i am told its a closed book assessment. If thats the case you should,nt be using books, net etc. If its not the case then i should be able to allow my delagates to do the assessment open book too good for the Goose etc
frankhone  
#10 Posted : 11 November 2009 14:54:19(UTC)
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frankhone

Q has been answered by.
IOSH E-learning is A closed book assessment an agreement has to be reached by the tutor & delegates on a venue to sit the assessment to ensure no cheeting takes place.
Frank
MZC  
#11 Posted : 11 November 2009 14:54:31(UTC)
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MZC



So in reality,


This firm is just providing the course content to them, i.e power points, quiz etc and then charging them ?
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