I am lokking at ways to deliver health and safety training in-house by training in the CIEH accredited training scheme. The question is over asbestos awareness courses. Does anyone know if the above accreditation would allow me to presdent a course on basic asbestos awareness?

Hi. Just to make it clear the training session would be basic asbestos awareness and not removal which would be done by UKATA approved trainers. this is just a basic awareness course which is a H&S awareness course which lasts for aprox 2.5 hours.

Clairel As usual I was expressing my personal views when it comes to which trainers I have found to be best. WRT Removal and essentials however the HSE are making it clear that they expect UKATA accreditation in order to provide the training. The basic awareness course can be done by any competent person in asbestos who can also train competently. I am concerned however if people believe the inital awareness training should be less than 1/2 day. Refresher training beyond this can be as much as is required - as I have previously stated in earlier threads on the old forum, the more people encounter asbestos the less time refresher training takes as they have better recall of the information Bob

Smudger, thought that's what I said??

Peter, I think it depends on your background. For me I learnt nothing new as I had already been taught it all previously and had some experience. But, for me, it gave me the piece of paper to say I was an accredited trainer. I'm sure others may find it useful but many won't.

I was of the opinion that the HSE do not endorse the requirement to use UKATA members for asbestos related training. I have certainly been quoted this by Inspectors in the past. However, I do see, strangely enough, that they appear to endorse UKATA on the HSE's web site with it's current campaign.

Been very busy lately! UKATA (non Profit making) is a new association which people can join who deliver any type of Asbestos training, you can join at different levels depending on what type of course you intend to present from licensed to Awareness. (This used to be a sub group of the ALG called the Asbestos Training Providers Working Group (ATPWG) and the HSE were part of this. All members of UKATA have their Trainers, training materials and venue "independently" audited so that it complies with an 'agreed standard', obviously the stringency of standards vary dependant on the type of course you intend to deliver, once this is completed you can put the UKATA logo on your Training material and certificates. There is NO legal requirement to use a UKATA training organisation much the same as there is no legal requirement to use PASMA or IPAF etc however this is the 'industry best practice' you are free to do what you want. Conversely how do organisations who have signed up to SSIP know that the level of training in asbestos is suitable and sufficient when they carry out your assessments. As far as a person hanging a picture this has not a lot to do with training in asbestos this is covered in the Duty to manage and the LEGAL requirement that people 'Manage asbestos' and part of this is telling people where it is in the property, if this was AIB would you allow this/ How many people will be sticking pins in AIB etc during the XMAS period, think about that!