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montalban		#1 Posted : 23 November 2009 13:54:20(UTC)
Rank: New forum user		Whilst channel hopping on Saturday night, I saw a small part of the show and was left wondering how singing and dancing on a 10 ft square platform 8-10 ft off the ground (without fall protection) is allowable under the WAH Regs. I know it was only Jedward, but even they deserve to be protected. Am I missing something?
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grim72		#2 Posted : 23 November 2009 14:29:56(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		It did catch my attention, especially when they jumped off it. I was left absolutely staggered, though they should have at least doubled the height to give us a realistic chance of getting rid of them for good ;-)
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Elfy		#3 Posted : 23 November 2009 14:53:03(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		Montalban. Are you advocating that there should have been guarding to the platform, or am I missing something?
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montalban		#4 Posted : 23 November 2009 15:18:44(UTC)
Rank: New forum user		ELFY wrote: Montalban. Are you advocating that there should have been guarding to the platform, or am I missing something? Yes, I suppose I am. Is the entertainment industry exempt (no I am not trying to be clever)
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RayRapp		#5 Posted : 23 November 2009 15:23:24(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		No, the entertainment industry is not exempt. Presumably a suitable and sufficient RA was conducted, the results briefed to Jedward and appropriate controls put in place - and I still believe in Father Xmas! Ray
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ScotsAM		#6 Posted : 23 November 2009 15:28:13(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		A similar thought went through my mind whilst watching last night's top gear when driving in a vehicle run by a diesel generator whith fumes filling the inside of the vehicle - not to mention the exposure to the noise without apparent hearing protection.
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ScotsAM		#7 Posted : 23 November 2009 15:29:01(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		scotsam wrote: A similar thought went through my mind whilst watching last night's top gear when driving in a vehicle run by a diesel generator whith fumes filling the inside of the vehicle - not to mention the exposure to the noise without apparent hearing protection. Just to be clear - I wasn't watching it whilst driving the said vehicle. The presenters were in the vehicle...
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goose		#8 Posted : 23 November 2009 15:35:36(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Having worked in entertainment and theatres for about 10 years (although not there now), it was perfectly acceptable for performaers to be on a platform, all events of this type are licenced by the local authority through the enetertaiment licence so an independent review is undertaken to an extent. It's a balance of risk and without it we would not have such performers as acrobats, tight rope walkers or even pole vaultersand high jumpers etc!!

firesafety101		#9 Posted : 23 November 2009 15:41:29(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Montalban wrote: Whilst channel hopping on Saturday night, I saw a small part of the show and was left wondering how singing and dancing on a 10 ft square platform 8-10 ft off the ground (without fall protection) is allowable under the WAH Regs. I know it was only Jedward, but even they deserve to be protected. Am I missing something? So what do you want them to do? Climb an internal ladder and exit through a trap hatch? As far as I am aware that type of industry is allowed to provide entertainment such as the dangerous actions on the show as long as during rehearsals adequate protection is provided. If not for the potentially dangerous aspects of that type of stunt entertainment would not be as entertaining as it is.
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JohnMackie		#10 Posted : 23 November 2009 15:53:21(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		Goose, did you say "Balance of risk" without chuckling? cheers
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goose		#11 Posted : 23 November 2009 15:58:10(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Well spotted John, a feather in your cap.. Goose.

son of skywalker		#12 Posted : 23 November 2009 16:22:00(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		I remember a couple of years ago the accident in the Glasgow Pavilion panto. The actress who plays Jimmy Krankie climbed a beanpole (obviously playing Jack) and suffered a fall. this resulted in severe (potentially life threatening) injuries. Jimmy Krankie never returned to the panto circuit after this and probably never will (My boys were devastated). The dangers are just as present on a stage as on a building site. Son of Skywalker
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