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My father has been in and out of hospital for some time, Recently we recieved the good news that they will allow him to come home on the condition that he recieve medical treatment at home.
Part of this is for a large motor asissted hospital bed be added to the bedroom, whilst this is not an issue, we were told on that on the grounds of "health and safety" my mother would not be able to sleep in a normal single bed beside him.
Health and safety also reared its head when asking if the bed was nesscesary at all, My father has problems getting in and out of bed and is fairly fragile ( at the moment ). However, on previous occasions upon his return home, such a great effort was not made and my father adapted to the bed we have in place.
We have been asked to put him into a carers home, but none of us deem that idea to be ideal for him, it seems the hospital are doing everything they can to deter us from having him at home with the family.
My question is, are any of the "Health and safety" mentions true or are we being pushed into something that is over cautious and un-nesscesary?
Thanks for the help in advance.
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Hi A.Carter. Having experienced a similar scenario with my mother I believe that every effort is being made to allow her to remain at her own home.
However, these are my guesses with regard to your father. The motorised bed probably has exposed mechanism when raised and trap points when being lowered. If anyone was asleep with their arm outstretched there would be a forseeable but slim chance of being hurt.
The effort of getting out of a normal flat bed may well be greater than the medical and social authorities believe your father is capable of and present a real risk of further harm.
As I say, these are guesses but in my mother's case the support and advice has been excellent. It will be difficult but if you are able to think dispassionately about the real condition of your father and what his real needs are then maybe the advice you are receiving may be a little more understandable. Of course, if you genuinely have a better feel for your father's needs than others then press your case with them.
Good luck in whatever is best for your father.
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I am of the opinion this is probably a care issue rather than a health and safety issue persay.
Given your father is in his own home, the only scenario I can think of if health and safety is being bantered about is on the proviso that home nursing is being provided. In this case, the provision of the electric bed would be for the assistance of the carers, in addition to providing increased comfort to your father.
Having a bed next to it may compromise the functions and purpose of the bed and the care provided to your father, particularly if assistance is required at the bedside, I.e. getting in/out of bed or treatment when in bed.
Most health organisations are very supportive when people take relatives home rather than keep them hospitalised, so I would encourage you to voice your concerns with them. I am sure a compromise could be met.
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Sorry for the late reply, I was unable to get to a computer yesterday.
It was my belief that health and safety was just being bantered about with no solid grounds to base it on. Obviously that is not the case and they do have some honest health and safety concerns.
I just wanted to check before i started voicing any concerns I had with the care of my father, obviously I would like him to be as comfortable as possible, but still feel the need of a large hospital bed is a little over baked.
Whilst I know they are trying to accomodate for him the best they can, We still believe that he is more then capable of getting in and out of bed easily, in fact he is fairly stubborn and doesnt accept help if offered. Whilst I feel the bed may be of some benefit to him, it seems it comes at more of a cost to the family then a benefit.
Thanks all for for the replys.
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It's partly H&S, but probably more closely concerned with professional duties of care, orginating from bideis like the Nursing and Midwifery Council and the Chartered Society of Physiotherapists. There's also a real fear in the NHS of bad press and/or litigation arising from apparent neglect. Discharging somebody from hospital without a proper risk assessment would open the professionals concerned to exactly this; the press could quite easily make their lives a misery. 'Man condemned to bed-ridden life by negligent nurses' or something of the sort.
But having said that, yes, discuss it with the hosiptal, because all the professional bodies also have a written duty to enhance patient choice and independence, and its a question of striking the right balance,
John
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Thanks all for the resposes. We spoke to the head nurse and explained our stance on a mechanical bed - she understood completely and thought it was something that was somewhat over the top for someone who is able to walk short distances. (our stance being that it made it more difficult for my mother to attend to his needs if she were to be sleeping on the ground floor and having to go up and down stairs - which is what was suggested! ) Thanks for all the advice above, it gave us the nesscesary ammo to stand up for something that would cause so much hassle, grief and stress without masses of benefit for my father. He is able to walk short distances and seems to be steady with recovery. Thanks Edited by user 16 April 2010 17:27:02(UTC)
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