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Is HSE career really worth it !! Please Help.
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I am in the field of Safety in India for 6 years now. Worked in construction and drilling industry. Always wanted to get in oil and gas field for better opportunities, for better safety standards ( here standards keeps on changing with different companies). But sometimes its get fustrating when your employer says safety is Client driven, if client insists you work hard on safety otherwise safety takes backseat. This gets really fustrating and disheartning, and one has to think IS THIS CAREER OPTION REALLY WORTH IT?
Does anybody out there have same experience and Please let me know how to deal with such situations?
Abhijit
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Abhijit,
welcome to the world of safety! I think anyone who has any experience in safety at work, wherever it is in the world, will recognise your dismay and frustration. I hope you will work through this temporary concern.
For me, when it gets tough, I try to remember why I wanted to work in safety and then I find the will to carry on.
Like the doctor who has to tell his patient it is important to lose weight, he can only persuade the patient to do the right thing. If the patient chooses to ignore the advice, then is that reason for the Doctor to leave medicine? I think not.
Some will see and follow, others do not want to see, others will never see whatever you do.
Make the improvements where you can. Little by little is better than not at all.
I have not given you any technical advice because I am sure that you already know that anyway.
Is it a worthwhile occupation? YES YES YES.
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Abhijit,
I suppose it depends on how you value worth.
In pure financial terms, then I've got to say that here in the UK - probably not.
If you need to feel valued by your employer then again it really would depend on the ethos of the company you end up working for.
But if you value improving the situation of and making a difference for your fellow human (whatever the cause of that motivation) then, absolutely the career is immeasurably worth it.
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Thanks Pete48 and Yossarian for you advice.
It really helps to listen words of advice from people in the same proffession.
Also I wasn't aware that safety people all around the world face same concerns.
I will try my best to make whatever little difference i can make with current role at the moment and simultaneously i will look for place to work where safety does matter irrespective of client requirements/Gov. compliance.
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In my experience of H+S, were always the bad guys. But when there's an incident were one of the first to be called for. The advice we give saves lives, but when there isn't an incident we get no credit. How I used to get job satisfaction is at the end of the day and all the people on my site go home at the end of their shift. Its a bit like having a wee in a dark suit, you get a warm feeling but no-one else notices!! :)
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Abhijit,
You must know that you are working on people, behavior you are trying to change it. No body can do it in a project or a year it takes too long time and it depends on you to change it. As a technical advice try to give your management that you are in the same side with them, try to use deferent approaches “saving company reputation, people are our capital, accidents will coast us time and money, etc.”
It really worth
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Abhijit,
I can only say that in the present world, it is a matter of time when a company understands how much the accidents cost them and what it can cost in terms of reputation and fines from authorities as well. Also, sooner or later companies include HSE milestones \ statistics as key-performance indicators in their balanced scorecards, and also find out that good safety record can also be used as a positive PR for the company. Example from Russia where I work: just 15 years ago, industry was performance-driven and safety of people was not on the list of priorities. The things changed quite a bit, and now looking at major companies, many of them have well written HSE Policies, Senior Management Commitement statements and HSE standards. Another issue is that not all of that is being followed still, but things are improving.
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Yossarian wrote:Abhijit,
I suppose it depends on how you value worth.
In pure financial terms, then I've got to say that here in the UK - probably not.
If you need to feel valued by your employer then again it really would depend on the ethos of the company you end up working for.
But if you value improving the situation of and making a difference for your fellow human (whatever the cause of that motivation) then, absolutely the career is immeasurably worth it.
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Very well said, Health & Safety is one of the most frustrating topics to introduce into most companies, but it is also one of the most important. Anybody who has to ask if it is worth it, should maybe contemplate a career change. My approach is that all will adhere sooner or later, they may argue, call me names behind my back, but our employees are slowley adhering, (whether they realise it or not), i merely keep on hitting problem areas and continually hounding my MD, (who must be getting sick and tired of me by now), but over the past 12 months, i/we have really seen an improvement. Some are actually approaching me and requesting help and information. Just implement a non biased approach, as soon as they know that you are not only there for the good of the company/directors, they will trust you and start to listen. (Hopefully)!
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Abhijit,
Clearly you find your job very challenging at this time but from your post you are making a difference.
I guess you have to ask yourself, is this what you want to do, could you earn an living doing something else and would you like it.
I enjoy my job as I do make a difference so that rocks with me, but if I was challenged on an ongoing basis then I would have to think of my choice of employer if not career options.
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Abhijit
Abhijit, I sympathise with your predicament! In India, It seems that health and safety indeed takes a back seat unless the construction project client demands not only minimum standards, but good practice that will prevent accidents and injuiries. One just has to read about the recent spate of multiple fatalities on some "prestigious constructions projects", including the New Delhi Meteo project, the Kota Bridge collapse and the collapsed chimney of Balco's new aluminium smelter at its Korba complex just to name a few.
The problem lies with the lax enforcement of the law and lack of "punishment" of the negligent parties. UNless the entire Health and Safety system is changed, the onus will be on the good employers and also good clients. Perhaps you could try working for good employers (such as Larsen and Toubro's ECC Division or a reputable multinational outfit), but they are a very small minority.
Therefore, it is down to your personal preferences. Did you get into health and safety primarily because you have a passion for it or was it due to circumstances that you selected this profession. If it is the former, there are times, even with good employers when we feel frustrated.
Do you have a network of like-minded professionals who can influence this through your regionsl/national bodies??
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Thanks for your replys Hatem, Boris,Rick and DavidBrede.
Jay,
you are spot on while referring to lax enforcement/ lack of "Punishment" of the negligent parties, its main reason behind variable safety standards here. But I am sure some time in future it will change, as Boris says it changed in russia. And i always wanted to be a part of that change.It is a choosen career for me.
The reason to feel frustrated was that I was involve on one project since two years where client was Big westen O&G major to start exploration here in india. And that helped me to greatly pushing for Safety standards to new levels while complying to client.
Unfornunately this project winded up prematurely because of other reasons within 2 years (thats exploration drilling) but we was great to see to change in work practises, workers attidues towars safety. Great job satisfaction that you are playing your part to make workplace safer.
But as soon as this project was over we were back to square one .. ...And that made me feel really frustrated. But as I said It is choosen career for me and thats the very reason I posted my frustration above.
Thanks all you guys for your advice. It surely does helps.
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